# Umm MTO wtf? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [August 2, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149 "2011-08-02T16:20:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DudebuD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@DudebuD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DudebuD)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/1 "2011-08-02T16:20:33Z")
I got my G on may 9th. My g2 and the G temp permit expired on the 25th. and to this date i have not received my G license in the mail. Now I gave the MTO some time before i followed up due to the postal strike. So today i tried to insure my new hyundai genesis and according to my insurer im unlicensed. I double checked on the MTO website and it says my license is not vaild… So now…how the hell did this happen and what can be done to fix it? I have proof i completed the test(ie my temp G permit). ---
**Author:** ![RB240Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/47e85d/32.png) [@RB240Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RB240Z)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/2 "2011-08-02T16:38:15Z")
its because ur g2 expired…either wait til the G comes, go to the actual testing place or u have to go to the ministry and get ur g2 renewed. ---
**Author:** ![DudebuD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@DudebuD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DudebuD)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/3 "2011-08-02T16:44:26Z")
but shouldnt it show in their system that im now a licensed G driver? After all thats what the temp says… ---
**Author:** ![Coop\_LE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coop_le/32/5534_2.png) [@Coop\_LE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coop_LE)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/4 "2011-08-02T17:06:10Z")
your license probably expired, even tho you got your g doesnt mean it renews its self, had the same thing acouple years ago. ---
**Author:** ![DudebuD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@DudebuD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DudebuD)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/5 "2011-08-02T17:11:21Z")
> [@Coop LE](#): > > your license probably expired, even tho you got your g doesnt mean it renews its self, had the same thing acouple years ago. shouldnt it extend it for a further 5 years? odd. but ya my license did expire on the 25th of may. ---
**Author:** ![PureEuroM3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@PureEuroM3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureEuroM3)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/6 "2011-08-02T17:23:13Z")
> [@DudebuD](#): > > shouldnt it extend it for a further 5 years? odd. > > but ya my license did expire on the 25th of may. It does not extend 5 years if you get a new class of license. I got my G in the mail and had to renew it a week later so it expired for sure. Better get on that. ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/7 "2011-08-02T17:23:52Z")
i wonder if it’s because your g2 expired so close to the temp g expiring call the MTO general infoline and explain your situtation ---
**Author:** ![DudebuD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@DudebuD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DudebuD)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/8 "2011-08-02T17:26:09Z")
ya looks like it is expired… how annoying. gotta go to the mto before class tomorrow. I JUST WANT MY DAMN GENESIS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Benjai](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/benjai/32/6122_2.png) [@Benjai](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Benjai)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/9 "2011-08-02T17:35:36Z")
> [@DudebuD](#): > > I JUST WANT MY DAMN GENESIS!!! Well there’s your problem right there. Sorry, too easy. ---
**Author:** ![\_kris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/858c86/32.png) [@\_kris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_kris)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/10 "2011-08-02T18:22:06Z")
its because your G2 was about to expire, and then you went for your G-license. You passed your G they gave you a temp permit that **expires the same day your G2 does** , unless you renew it and pay $60 to get a new picture done… You were expecting your G-license in the mail but you didn’t know it wasn’t coming… UNLESS you renewed it. I just renewed mine as well… confusing as fuck, does not make sense what so ever why they would do this… but thats just the way it is… ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/11 "2011-08-02T18:35:05Z")
^^ actually now that you just said that, it makes perfect sense to the OP: the 5yr expiration period doesn’t automatically renew just from getting your G. it’s been 5 years since you got your G2, so that’s why it was up for renewal so close to getting your G, because you waited awhile it is confusing but the solution is don’t wait until the last minute to do your G 🙂 on the plus side, since you did actually GET your G before the expiration date, I think you can just pay the renewal fee and be on your way call the infoline or go to a license office ---
**Author:** ![DudebuD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@DudebuD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DudebuD)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/12 "2011-08-02T18:41:27Z")
> [@spd-dmn](#): > > ^^ actually now that you just said that, it makes perfect sense > > to the OP: > the 5yr expiration period doesn’t automatically renew just from getting your G. it’s been 5 years since you got your G2, so that’s why it was up for renewal so close to getting your G, because you waited awhile > > it is confusing but the solution is don’t wait until the last minute to do your G 🙂 > > on the plus side, since you did actually GET your G before the expiration date, I think you can just pay the renewal fee and be on your way > > call the infoline or go to a license office Yeah i duh deeper and that seems to be case. It makes absolutely no sense though considering its a whole new license class. Ah well ill just go in tomorrow. Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![\_kris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/858c86/32.png) [@\_kris](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_kris)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/13 "2011-08-03T12:02:00Z")
> [@spd-dmn](#): > > ^^ actually now that you just said that, it makes perfect sense > > to the OP: > the 5yr expiration period **doesn’t** _automatically renew just from getting your G_. it’s been 5 years since you got your G2, so that’s why it was up for renewal so close to getting your G, because you waited awhile > > it is confusing but the solution is don’t wait until the last minute to do your G 🙂 > > on the plus side, since you did actually GET your G before the expiration date, I think you can just pay the renewal fee and be on your way > > call the infoline or go to a license office exactaMUNDO! ---
**Author:** ![sherlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@sherlock](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sherlock)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/14 "2011-08-03T12:35:27Z")
i work for drive test, youll have to go in and pay 75 to get it renewed for another 5 years. just like spd-dmn has said, he is exactly right. you only get 5 years from the date you started your g1 to get your full g, if you dont do it all ion that time then you have to tart back from the g1 again but without waiting those 1 year wait periods inbetween each class ---
**Author:** ![DudebuD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@DudebuD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DudebuD)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/umm-mto-wtf/215149/15 "2011-08-03T14:38:45Z")
> [@sherlock](#): > > i work for drive test, youll have to go in and pay 75 to get it renewed for another 5 years. just like spd-dmn has said, he is exactly right. > > you only get 5 years from the date you started your g1 to get your full g, if you dont do it all ion that time then you have to tart back from the g1 again but without waiting those 1 year wait periods inbetween each class went in this morning and it cost me $60. all worked out… now i wish insurance was much easier…