# Understeering **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 22, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966 "2009-06-22T20:50:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/21 "2009-06-23T11:03:50Z")
Just read OP again, what are you spring rates? You have enough adjustability in your setup to make the car do anything you want. Aftermarket adjustable sway bars are the last piece you could use, but you can set it up to do whatever you want with the stuff you’ve got. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/22 "2009-06-23T11:28:18Z")
Word. When all else fails: 1/4" toe out up front should do you pretty good :rofl ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/23 "2009-06-23T11:42:02Z")
> [@channel 4 news tonight 11/6 @11pm v. drama for my dad](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/channel-4-news-tonight-11-6-11pm-v-drama-for-my-dad/19778/24): > > Word. > > When all else fails: > > 1/4" toe out up front should do you pretty good :rofl haha I just had the front tow aligned, that is why I was late to the event. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/24 "2009-06-23T11:45:09Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/19785/3): > > Just read OP again, what are you spring rates? > > You have enough adjustability in your setup to make the car do anything you want. Aftermarket adjustable sway bars are the last piece you could use, but you can set it up to do whatever you want with the stuff you’ve got. Updated first post. 8kg front, 6kg rear. I need my own private large parking lot so I can tune everything :lol ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/25 "2009-06-23T11:54:53Z")
There are plenty of industrial parks around where you can do that late at night. Don’t linger around for hours and dont make a scene, but you can quickly figure out where your car understeers (corner entry/initiation in your case) and how (flat or roll). That will get you 75% of the way to a fix. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/26 "2009-06-23T12:03:29Z")
Yeah there are a couple places by me, I should try with my smaller wheels that I’ll be drifting on. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/27 "2009-06-23T12:41:06Z")
more nega cambz up frontz ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/28 "2009-06-23T13:45:03Z")
That seems pretty soft for rates, but I’m not sure what rates you guys run regularly. ---
**Author:** ![JVG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jvg/32/6348_2.png) [@JVG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JVG)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/29 "2009-06-23T17:34:16Z")
> [@Hay Jon Carry!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hay-jon-carry/19784/48): > > I would like to check out how the ksport mounts in and if I can keep my center console. I already have Stance solid subframe bushings. I think I’m going to hold off on the sway bars because I don’t want to stiffen the front anymore and for normal street driving I don’t want to have the rear too stiff. Yeah let me no when yo want to swing through the shop to check it out ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/30 "2009-06-23T17:54:56Z")
would like to know more about the awsome handle… I am by no means turning my car into a drift car but I want one for awsome factor… ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/31 "2009-06-23T17:55:31Z")
> [@Need For Speed: Carbon (multiple threads merged)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-for-speed-carbon-multiple-threads-merged/19653/30): > > Yeah there are a couple places by me, I should try with my smaller wheels that I’ll be drifting on. Let me know when you do this I would also like to experiament with something and have no idea of any good places ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/32 "2009-06-23T19:48:41Z")
I just want one so I can install my rear z32 brakes without having to source the drum parking brakes and dick around with shitty drums and springs :lol ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/33 "2009-06-24T08:16:34Z")
> [@Find the 50 movies in this painting](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/find-the-50-movies-in-this-painting/19821/5): > > I just want one so I can install my rear z32 brakes without having to source the drum parking brakes and dick around with shitty drums and springs :lol Oh come on Awsome handle = awsome factor… I want one… I wont use it much but itll be cool to have ahuge handle sticking up next to the stearing wheel and ppl going wtf is that and then im like the awsome handle… and then theyre like why is it called an awsome handle… Proceed to use awsome handle causing a shitty mess on passenger seat… and then go “because its awsome!” ---
**Author:** ![Wallace](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wallace/32/6345_2.png) [@Wallace](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wallace)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/34 "2009-06-24T19:43:04Z")
i have some e-bay styled D2 coilovers that i got from ramrod. i don’t have any fancy shit on my car just those coilovers and that’s it. the rest is all factory and rusty. just play with what you got and get more right foot and whip the wheel. i’ll go for a ride next time and maybe i’ll take it for a drive. you can also ride with me to see what i do if you’d like. side note- i use my e-brake if i start to push which isn’t much and i just flick the wheel and mash the gas to start a drift. e-braking is alot of fun on smaller tighter turns. ---
**Author:** ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/35 "2009-06-25T05:34:30Z")
why don’t you show him at AIS ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/36 "2009-06-25T06:26:27Z")
Yeah I’m looking forward to learning quite a bit at AIS. ---
**Author:** ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/37 "2009-06-25T06:52:23Z")
yea jay we can’t wait for AIS, we will tandem, and you can show steve your tricks of the trade, and we will laugh, and have an awesome time ---
**Author:** ![Wallace](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wallace/32/6345_2.png) [@Wallace](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wallace)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/38 "2009-06-25T14:43:41Z")
yea you guys will laugh and have a great time! you are just as good as i am sam and you know it. i can’t go and you know that too! ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/39 "2009-06-26T04:47:02Z")
> [@oh mister newman....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-mister-newman/19861/89): > > yea you guys will laugh and have a great time! you are just as good as i am sam and you know it. **i can’t go and you know that too!** WAT? ---
**Author:** ![Wallace](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wallace/32/6345_2.png) [@Wallace](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wallace)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966/40 "2009-06-26T05:58:47Z")
well since you put it that way i’ll see what i can do. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/understeering/244966.md?page=3)