# Unique vs. Functional

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 23, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268 "2009-10-23T12:36:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/41 "2009-10-23T14:14:14Z")

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> [@ILC](#):
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> The only reason I could think of doing a unique swap would be because I already had a Motor from X, and a Shell from Y

basically why I am doing the sr in s10. except i bought the s10, but it was only $500. lol

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**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/42 "2009-10-23T14:32:33Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> edit: personally though. I am a bigger fan of a well setup car (like neonglh’s evo), rather than a car with a ton of money shoved into it. I could see how the engineers in the group could have different opinions though.
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> edit to your edit: I don’t do much to my cars at all. My current one has a CHEAP and FUNTIONAL short shift plate installed on the cable transmission, along with a boost gauge. My last car had an intake and factory option wheels which were lighter, wider, and taller. The only really modded car I owned was my turbo civic. That was a ground-up build. And at that, it was a homemade d16 turbo with spray painted body work.

> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Another example of a retarded swap:
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> 2JZ into a BMW M5
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> explain…

It sounds like your just poor and jealous of the people that have the money and the resources to pull off a crazy swap.

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**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/43 "2009-10-23T14:53:29Z")

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> [@NYstanger](#):
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> It sounds like your just poor and jealous of the people that have the money and the resources to pull off a crazy swap.

perhaps they didn’t read the entire swap thread. labor was free and to make the power he is making on the 2JZ with this stock engine would have cost more.

This topic always make me laugh on the subject of my camaro.

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**Author:** ![Matt\_Danger](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/matt_danger/32/4981_2.png) [@Matt\_Danger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Matt_Danger)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/44 "2009-10-23T15:04:02Z")

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![http://mattdanger.net/images/motivation/2004293647_ace4e1ecc1.jpg](http://mattdanger.net/images/motivation/2004293647_ace4e1ecc1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/45 "2009-10-23T15:30:17Z")

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> [@NYstanger](#):
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> It sounds like your just poor and jealous of the people that have the money and the resources to pull off a crazy swap.

I definitely am. lol

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/46 "2009-10-23T19:26:31Z")

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> [@NYstanger](#):
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> It sounds like your just poor and jealous of the people that have the money and the resources to pull off a crazy swap.

haha

that’s super funny, and not the case at all

I choose not to heavily mod my cars, but not because I am poor

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**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/47 "2009-10-23T19:31:22Z")

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i like being different but still keeping it functional. Ala my custom title. I also enjoy setting my 30th apart from the other 1599 30th’s they produced.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/48 "2009-10-23T19:46:03Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> I assume (without knowing much about it), that with the amount of shop time, and money that was spent, the stock powertrain could have done pretty well on its own.

Then your assumption would be wrong. They either bought an M5 without a drivetrain or sold off the one that was in it (for $6k to $8k depending on condition). To go big on an S62 you’re looking at $10k-20k depending on goals. You HAVE to sleeve the motor if you are pushing over 550whp.

Anyway, as for the original topic, doing something unique that is cool (RB e30) is one thing (Combines, Cool with Awesome), but doing something like a SHO motor in a Camaro, or a VG in an S13? :suicide: (suck + suck and suck + disposable chassis).

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**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/49 "2009-10-23T20:27:00Z")

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> [@travisn](#):
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> I definitely am. lol

I’m poor too. ☹

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**Author:** ![clinzee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clinzee/32/5233_2.png) [@clinzee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/clinzee)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/50 "2009-10-23T21:10:31Z")

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Yeah did you read the m5 thread at all? He basically put in a motor with a lot of potential for about the same price as it would cost to have his motor modded to make his horse power goals. They also did a very clean swap.

I won’t do something that’s “played out” but I’m not going to do something that is not effective in any sense of the word for the sake of being unique.

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**Author:** ![Since\_1983](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/since_1983/32/5362_2.png) [@Since\_1983](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Since_1983)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/51 "2009-10-24T01:14:47Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Yep, but you can’t tell me when after blowing his rotary in an FD for the 3rd time a guy said, “fuck it, I’m dropping an LS2 in here”, his friends didn’t say the same thing you’re saying about “why, there are already proven ways to go fast that are easier”. The first guy to do it was dropping GM stuff into a Mazda. Not just a Mazda either, a weird rotard powered one. To be the first I’m sure it wasn’t easy.
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> But he persisted, it caught on, and now the LS2/FD swap is a well documented and supported way to go fast and have fun.
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> Hence, my simple, “Every common swap at one point wasn’t” comment.

SOB stole my example! lol

Creativity is great, and it is the vein of the industry but when I think of creativity I think of someone who’s done something different and not too functional. When I think of something different and functional I prefer to think of that as ingenuity.

money=cars cars=money  
me=no money=modding a honda

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**Author:** ![blk99z28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@blk99z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blk99z28)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/52 "2009-10-24T06:54:14Z")

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I didn’t vote because both choices are far from being mutually exclusive. I definitely like being unique. But, cheap and effective works too. I see no reason some can’t have both.

Bottom line is, It depends on how much money you have.

Unique = Cash to burn  
Cheap & Effective = broke

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**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/53 "2009-10-24T14:27:06Z")

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As long as it works. But for just being unique ehhh…

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**Author:** ![Axis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/axis/32/5149_2.png) [@Axis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axis)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/54 "2009-10-24T14:55:07Z")

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Being unique is nice and what not, but I wouldn’t sacrifice functionality for it.

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**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/55 "2009-10-25T01:28:54Z")

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> [@Paulo](#):
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> I think that no matter what, we are all losing a lot of fucking money that we could be spending on much better and more enjoyable things.

Amen.

Not only do we waste tons of money, but everything we buy/do is depreciating. If we had stamp/coin collections at least we would be increasing our net worths. :banghead:

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**Author:** ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/56 "2009-10-25T04:47:23Z")

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Whn LSX mtrs started showing up in old muscle cars it was unique, now its just overdone. You cant go to a car show and not see one. lsx is a great platform but i love the cheapness of a gen 1 dinosaur

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**Author:** ![dftsilvia](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dftsilvia/32/7447_2.png) [@dftsilvia](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dftsilvia)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/57 "2009-10-25T08:48:41Z")

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i have a pretty common rb swap in my car, and at the same time its a lil different because every person that see’s my car asks the same question, “hey u got a red top or a black top sr20 in there”  
so i guess my vote would be stick with what works and what u can handle, i kno i couldnt pull off putting an rb26 into a e30, so i wouldnt even try.  
and didnt newman have that 26 from his previous car? so he kinda just went with motor x and shell y.  
so i guess if u have both x and y and u have the means 2 do it, y the hell not.

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**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/58 "2009-10-25T10:12:40Z")

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> [@Penfold](#):
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> If we had stamp/coin collections at least we would be increasing our net worths. :banghead:

NYStamp - New Yorks ONLY Statewide Stamp Forum

:rimshot:

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/59 "2009-10-25T10:33:02Z")

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I think the longer you’re in the ‘automotive scene’ you get bored of seeing the same cars / swaps / etc. over and over again. It’s refreshing to see different ideas and creative work.

But I also think some people get hung up on trying to be so different that they create cars that are less functional and worse performing for too much money and time.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/unique-vs-functional/75268/60 "2009-10-25T10:51:14Z")

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i think he’s just mad that bolt on GSRs pull 350Zs

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