# Upside-down flag in protest of Obama, upsets neighbors **URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upside-down-flag-in-protest-of-obama-upsets-neighbors/200573 **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic **Created:** [November 8, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upside-down-flag-in-protest-of-obama-upsets-neighbors/200573 "2008-11-08T11:59:20Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 57
### Author: ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk) #### Post date: [November 11, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upside-down-flag-in-protest-of-obama-upsets-neighbors/200573/57 "2008-11-11T15:46:23Z")
> [@Attn: NY Speed Roller Hockey Team!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/attn-ny-speed-roller-hockey-team/38683/7): > > If you really think that our freedom to defend ourselves/own firearms is as curtailed in the US as it is in Canada, you’re either delusional or misinformed. No, it’s not perfect, but it’s better than any other western nation. in all fairness: > In Windsor, the Canadian town that borders Detroit, there were only 4 firearm homicides in 1997. In Detroit, for that same year, there were 354 firearm homicides. If the population of Detroit and Windsor were equal, the number of firearm deaths would be nearly eighteen times higher in Detroit, a city less than 1,000 yards away. > According to statistics, Canada in 1997 had 193 homicides by firearms. The United States had 12,380. It is hard to change a culture, but clearly the easy access to firearms has to be addressed before we can expect any significant drop in our homicide rate. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upside-down-flag-in-protest-of-obama-upsets-neighbors/200573)._