# Upstairs bedroom DIY

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [December 31, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563 "2008-12-31T10:06:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/21 "2008-12-31T11:10:13Z")

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Looks great. When they did the foam did they put any baffling behind it to circulate air flow?How does the attic circulate air if not? Did u Durabond the ceiling seams, why did you use molding instead of mudding the long ceiling seams?

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/22 "2008-12-31T12:06:02Z")

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> [@Spam16v](#):
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> how much was the foam?

Expect to pay about 4 times of what normal insulation would cost to have done.

All in, that upstairs bedroom was a little under $10K now I am working on a master bath next to it.

> [@JDMSIR](#):
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> Looks great. When they did the foam did they put any baffling behind it to circulate air flow?How does the attic circulate air if not? Did u Durabond the ceiling seams, why did you use molding instead of mudding the long ceiling seams?

Closed cell foam prevents airflow, so there is no baffling behind it. I used the moulding on the ceiling to make it easier, and to really define the ceiling, making it look a little higher than it actually is (7’)

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/23 "2008-12-31T12:06:26Z")

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Whats the difference between the foam and just using R-30? It doesnt seem the roof will be able to breathe with the foam

it looks awesome regardless

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/24 "2008-12-31T12:07:10Z")

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^+1

I want to close off my garage to the crawl space in my house. It is currently not insulated at all. If I want “some” insulation is the foam overkill and I should just use fibreglass? Versus if I reinsulate my living room would you suggest using the foam?

Did you have to run all your wires before they put in the foam?

Nice work :tup:

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/25 "2008-12-31T12:10:31Z")

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For walls? Just use r19 fiberglass insulation, we use pink panther. you cant feel any draft whatsoever and it keeps the house warm, plus muffles the sound a lot

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/26 "2008-12-31T12:13:22Z")

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I ran all the wires first, yes.

Foam is expensive, but the lack of airflow out of the room is how it stays warm. Before the remodel, that room was at least 15 degrees colder than the rest of the house. Now after the foam (and new windows) I can seriously heat the upstairs with the recessed lights and the heat from the TV. It is usually the warmest room in my house by far.

For the garage thing you are talking about do a normal wall with insulation. Foam is way too expensive if you don’t need to use it.

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/27 "2008-12-31T12:15:43Z")

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I just put almost 2 pallets of R-30 in the attic, and I’ve already noticed a difference. And not itchy at all.

Is that “Great Stuff” in the window case? I hope it is the stuff made for windows otherwise it may void the warranty. Great Stuff expands more than the manufacturer wants, so they only allow you to use the window type caulk.

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**Author:** ![almostBrett](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/almostbrett/32/5249_2.png) [@almostBrett](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/almostBrett)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/28 "2008-12-31T12:16:23Z")

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looks good man

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/29 "2008-12-31T12:19:22Z")

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eh i use that foam in a can stuff a lot, sometimes u cant fit the caulk gun in there, but thats not the case here. it provides a lot more draft resistance tho. otherwise you can always just stuff some fiberglass insulation in there as well

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/30 "2008-12-31T12:19:55Z")

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looks great. the color combo is realy nice. When i first opened the pictres and saw blue on the walls i think i actually died a little.lol

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**Author:** ![JDMSIR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdmsir/32/7376_2.png) [@JDMSIR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JDMSIR)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/31 "2008-12-31T12:32:16Z")

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I was just curious about the ventilation of the attic(not blowing up your spot), how does it ventilate? What kind of roof do you have, is it asphalt shingles? They can over heat without proper ventilation. Also excessive moisture can build up without the proper ventilation.

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**Author:** ![Smaefer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Smaefer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Smaefer)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/32 "2008-12-31T12:36:47Z")

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> [@Xander](#):
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> All in, that upstairs bedroom was a little under $10K now I am working on a master bath next to it.  
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Guess it’s not all done… I thought everything was done long ago other than the bath? at least thats what it looked like to me.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/33 "2008-12-31T12:40:28Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> Is that “Great Stuff” in the window case? I hope it is the stuff made for windows otherwise it may void the warranty. Great Stuff expands more than the manufacturer wants, so they only allow you to use the window type caulk.

I am by no means new to window installation, or the building world in general. Last thing I would want to do is ruin windows that cost almost a grand each, but thanks. 😉

> [@JDMSIR](#):
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> I was just curious about the ventilation of the attic(not blowing up your spot), how does it ventilate? What kind of roof do you have, is it asphalt shingles? They can over heat without proper ventilation. Also excessive moisture can build up without the proper ventilation.

Let’s just say, if it didn’t work the way it should, they would be out of business by now. I’ve actually had it done for 2 years already and have zero issues with it. The only thing I still want to do is insulate the walls in the lower part of my house, but I don’t want to take down all the plaster there too. Foam is considered the premium way to insulate.

> [@Smaefer](#):
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> Guess it’s not all done… I thought everything was done long ago other than the bath? at least thats what it looked like to me.

Phase 2 is about 60% done. 😉

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**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/34 "2008-12-31T13:22:38Z")

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Nice work :tup:

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**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/35 "2008-12-31T13:49:39Z")

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i was just about to ask why you didnt expand the bedroom all the way back and then i scrolled down to see the master bath. :tup: tho that looks pretty badass man. i would imagine your bathroom will be pretty pimp too? standup shower or bathtub? what kind of sink/vanity are you going to go with?

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/36 "2008-12-31T14:28:37Z")

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> [@bobbyg1243](#):
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> i was just about to ask why you didnt expand the bedroom all the way back and then i scrolled down to see the master bath. :tup: tho that looks pretty badass man. i would imagine your bathroom will be pretty pimp too? standup shower or bathtub? what kind of sink/vanity are you going to go with?

4’ x4’ wide shower, 6’ garden whirlpool tub 60" vanity, dual sink, with a tall linnen closet next to it.

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/37 "2008-12-31T15:11:33Z")

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Looks amazing Xander! I like these threads a lot.

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**Author:** ![Pauly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pauly/32/7493_2.png) [@Pauly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pauly)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/38 "2008-12-31T15:12:40Z")

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Nice Job looks awesome. The foam is coolio  
I wonder what it would cost to remove the insulation from my attic and foam it

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**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/39 "2008-12-31T15:45:53Z")

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> [@Xander](#):
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> I am by no means new to window installation, or the building world in general. Last thing I would want to do is ruin windows that cost almost a grand each, but thanks. 😉

So, I take it you didn’t use Great Stuff. Good Job 🤓

> [@Xander](#):
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> 4’ x4’ wide shower, 6’ garden whirlpool tub 60" vanity, dual sink, with a tall linnen closet next to it.
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In stead of a 60" vanity… put in a 60" plasma with a camera. Gots to have a TV in the bathroom.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstairs-bedroom-diy/60563/40 "2008-12-31T16:56:27Z")

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> [@Jack](#):
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> In stead of a 60" vanity… put in a 60" plasma with a camera. Gots to have a TV in the bathroom.

I will actually have room above the tub…

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