# Upstate NY to be 51st state? **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [November 14, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137 "2009-11-14T16:31:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cavi\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cavi_mike/32/5217_2.png) [@Cavi\_Mike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cavi_Mike)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/1 "2009-11-14T16:31:52Z")
![http://cavimike.com/flag51.gif](http://cavimike.com/flag51.gif) [http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1251269.shtml?cat=566](http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1251269.shtml?cat=566) I’m down. ---
**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/2 "2009-11-14T16:35:57Z")
I mentioned seperating ny city on another forum, and they wet the floor like a scared kitten. ---
**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/3 "2009-11-14T16:47:35Z")
So would Buffalo be the capital of the new state? It’s a pretty interesting idea, but the politicians will say “it would require too much money to actually do it, and too much work…” and it’ll disappear. If it requires a lot of work or any type of effort New York just doesn’t ever seem to want to do it. The state’s idea of getting easy money is selling all of us license plates or raising the tax rate and letting everyone else do the hard work. It doesn’t include much planning other than “OK businesses, you now owe us more than usual.” ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/4 "2009-11-14T16:53:52Z")
I always (and still do) think of Upstate NY as the Watertown area. It wasn’t until I went to college in CNY that I realized everyone else thought of Upstate as anything outside NYC and its closest surrounding counties. Upstate downstate talk always annoys me. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/5 "2009-11-14T16:55:45Z")
Cool idea but won’t ever happen ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/6 "2009-11-14T17:02:24Z")
I wonder what the effect would be if we lopped off NYC/Long Island? Lots less spending for Albany, but lots less income too. I wonder how it would work out… ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/7 "2009-11-14T18:10:02Z")
There’s tons that could be discussed there but one I would be curious about is the power savings that we generate from the falls. So much of that goes to powering NYC. ---
**Author:** ![boostedhatch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boostedhatch/32/5327_2.png) [@boostedhatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boostedhatch)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/8 "2009-11-14T18:10:27Z")
> [@Clean Baldy](#): > > So would Buffalo be the capital of the new state? It’s a pretty interesting idea, but the politicians will say “it would require too much money to actually do it, and too much work…” and it’ll disappear. you realize Albany is a good ways away from the city right? So im sure that Albany would still remain the capital of the “new state” ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/9 "2009-11-14T18:20:25Z")
[crosses fingers] ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/10 "2009-11-14T18:39:21Z")
Ummm why doesn’t NYC city become the 51st state? New York is already a state. They have been talking aboot this since I was a kid, yeah that long ago. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/11 "2009-11-14T19:28:27Z")
It’s be a good move…take patterson with ya. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/12 "2009-11-14T19:48:19Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > They have been talking aboot this since I was a kid, yeah that long ago. They talked about the wheel and fire too, and both of those ultimately came to fruition. Maybe this will happen too. :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/13 "2009-11-14T19:58:39Z")
Doooooo it! ---
**Author:** ![95dime](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/95dime/32/7514_2.png) [@95dime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95dime)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/14 "2009-11-14T20:17:08Z")
im all for this. most of the problems with this state is because of nyc imo… ---
**Author:** ![gsxr141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d2c977/32.png) [@gsxr141](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gsxr141)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/15 "2009-11-14T21:12:13Z")
do it now. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/16 "2009-11-15T06:18:18Z")
" it would be a gigantic undertaking to change the state constitution." It honestly isn’t that hard. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/17 "2009-11-15T06:47:18Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > It honestly isn’t that hard. Uhhh Think of every state run department that would need to change…and not just change but be created and hire staff. Not saying this isn’t a good thing but its a massive undertaking. ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/18 "2009-11-15T08:20:11Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Uhhh > > Think of every state run department that would need to change…and not just change but be created and hire staff. > > Not saying this isn’t a good thing but its a massive undertaking. X2 ---
**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/19 "2009-11-15T08:29:09Z")
> [@Clean Baldy](#): > > So would Buffalo be the capital of the new state? Are you serious? I think Albany would remain our state capital :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137/20 "2009-11-15T15:52:58Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Uhhh > > Think of every state run department that would need to change…and not just change but be created and hire staff. > > Not saying this isn’t a good thing but its a massive undertaking. Creating new and separate departments does not equal changing the constitution. You could simply have both states start with the same (current) constitutions and make necessary amendments from their. State constitutions are a lot easier to change than the US constitution. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-ny-to-be-51st-state/76137.md?page=2)