# upstate races you'd like to see

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [April 30, 2008, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682 "2008-04-30T09:52:13Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/41 "2008-04-30T13:40:57Z")

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Didn’t the Supra walk away from a Mustang on slicks from a dig that was talking shit at the lot last year??

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/42 "2008-04-30T13:41:32Z")

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the Z06 made over 500rwtq by 3100rpms OFF the spray…the supra, is a top end car and doesnt see its shit grinning numbers untill 6000+rpms…just my .02 tho…i could be wrong.

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### Author: ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/43 "2008-04-30T13:42:13Z")

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supra went 10.2 @ 139  
z06 went 10.8 @ 136

z06 was on drag radials  
supra was on wrinkle wall slicks

zo6 made 670rwhp  
supra made over 700rwhp (actual number unknown to me)

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### Author: ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/44 "2008-04-30T13:43:02Z")

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what stang was that??

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### Author: ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/45 "2008-04-30T13:44:52Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0](#):
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> what stang was that??

Don’t know, i’ve only heard stories on how they called his car a “matchbox”.

> [@PokerRun518](#):
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> supra went 10.2 @ 139  
> z06 went 10.8 @ 136
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> z06 was on drag radials  
> supra was on wrinkle wall slicks
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> zo6 made 670rwhp  
> supra made over 700rwhp (actual number unknown to me)

The ET’s show what can be done from a dig.

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/46 "2008-04-30T13:46:01Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> the Z06 made over 500rwtq by 3100rpms OFF the spray…the supra, is a top end car and doesnt see its shit grinning numbers untill 6000+rpms…just my .02 tho…i could be wrong.

Are you serious?

Anyhow, R/T, the actual power that makes it to the ground, the gearing, etc… I can write a thesis on this but it would be pointless.

How many examples of top end Supras their power in the 5-6K range but can cut 1.4-1.6 60’s do you want?

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/47 "2008-04-30T13:47:08Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> Are you serious?

go back and read what I said a few posts ago…I said IF THE z06 was on slicks and sprayed out of the hole…

if the z06 isnt on slicks, and doesnt spray out of the hole, the Supra is gonna win no matter how they race.

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### Author: ![jays05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@jays05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jays05)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/48 "2008-04-30T13:47:43Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> the Z06 made over 500rwtq by 3100rpms OFF the spray…the supra, is a top end car and doesnt see its shit grinning numbers untill 6000+rpms…just my .02 tho…i could be wrong.

Does having massive tq at 3100 rpms really matter in a drag race?

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/49 "2008-04-30T13:47:55Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> go back and read what I said a few posts ago…I said IF THE z06 was on slicks and sprayed out of the hole…
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> if the z06 isnt on slicks, and doesnt spray out of the hole, the Supra is gonna win no matter how they race.

I read this and that. Both are stupid. Sorry.

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/50 "2008-04-30T13:48:27Z")

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> [@jays05](#):
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> Does having massive tq at 3100 rpms really matter in a drag race?

Obviously it does. What happens if it has 5000RWHP and 600000TQ? I guess that’s the clear winner.

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/51 "2008-04-30T13:49:58Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> Obviously it does. What happens if it has 5000RWHP and 600000TQ? I guess that’s the clear winner.

no…but having massive torque will rip some nasty 60’s…IF you can put it to the ground.

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/52 "2008-04-30T13:50:51Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> no…but having massive torque will rip some nasty 60’s…IF you can put it to the ground.

What about the Hondas that don’t make a lot of torque that cut nasty 60’s? Is their lack of torque a conspiracy?

Explain the high horsepower imports that make torque later in the power band? How is that possible?

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### Author: ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/53 "2008-04-30T13:52:57Z")

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matchbox eh? any idea what year? fox, sn95 etc?

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/54 "2008-04-30T13:53:27Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> What about the Hondas that don’t make a lot of torque that cut nasty 60’s? Is their lack of torque a conspiracy?
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> Explain the high horsepower imports that make torque later in the power band? How is that possible?

when a 500hp civic with slicks is sitting at the line banging off the rev limiter to cut a 1.5-1.6 60’ while a 670rwhp Z06 is just above idling to cut the same 60’…

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/55 "2008-04-30T13:54:56Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> when a 500hp civic with slicks is sitting at the line banging off the rev limiter to cut a 1.5-1.6 60’ while a 670rwhp Z06 is just above idling to cut the same 60’…

They both cut the same 60’ yet the Z06 probably makes more torque? Doesn’t that go against your torque theory?

Keep digging that hole. :nono

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### Author: ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/56 "2008-04-30T13:55:59Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0](#):
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> matchbox eh? any idea what year? fox, sn95 etc?

i’m guessing fox body

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### Author: ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/57 "2008-04-30T14:02:05Z")

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shawn, what hes sayin is the z06 doesnt require as much effort as a honda to cut the same 60’. Take both cars and cut an identical 60’, say a 1.60, the z06 will be leaving at 2000-2500rpm, while the honda or torque lacking import will be bouncing off the 2-step at more lik 4500-5000. Not saying all imports are toque lacking but in most cases compared to domestics, we have the torque end covered pretty well.

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### Author: ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/58 "2008-04-30T14:02:55Z")

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i wanted to run the TT TA from a roll… just so it would be closer. I’m not going to run Hoosiers, no fenders or front bumper on the road haha. So from a dig the best i could do is run DR’s and i’m pretty sure it wouldbt be much of a video. Thats not to say i wouldnt do it for fun anyways. It’s whatever, i have no problem losing to a 670whp TT transam… or a 700whp supra, or a new z06 with a 100shot. If they want to go from a dig, it is what it is. I should have built a car that can launch, but since i didnt i’ll launch what i got. We should set some of these up, as soon as my fuel rail is re-attached.

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### Author: ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/59 "2008-04-30T14:04:05Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0](#):
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> shawn, what hes sayin is the z06 doesnt require as much effort as a honda to cut the same 60’. Take both cars and cut an identical 60’, say a 1.60, the z06 will be leaving at 2000-2500rpm, while the honda or torque lacking import will be bouncing off the 2-step at more lik 4500-5000. Not saying all imports are toque lacking but in most cases compared to domestics, we have the torque end covered pretty well.

thats exactly what I was saying i just couldnt figure out how to word it…thank you

what im also saying is rays supra might have some trouble if the Z06 is on slicks and sprays out of the hole…if hes not, the supra will win hands down…seeing as the supra went 10.2 on slicks @ 139…and the z06 went 10.8 @ 136 on DR’s, and only spraying 2nd-4th gear cause of traction issues…with slicks, and spraying in 1st gear, that Z06 is easily gonna pick up more then a 3mph trap.

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### Author: ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/upstate-races-youd-like-to-see/236682/60 "2008-04-30T14:12:22Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0](#):
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> shawn, what hes sayin is the z06 doesnt require as much effort as a honda to cut the same 60’. Take both cars and cut an identical 60’, say a 1.60, the z06 will be leaving at 2000-2500rpm, while the honda or torque lacking import will be bouncing off the 2-step at more lik 4500-5000. Not saying all imports are toque lacking but in most cases compared to domestics, we have the torque end covered pretty well.

That’s not what he is saying at all. He made references of torque (# and RPM achieved at) being some defacto justification for 60’ and that’s simply not true. There are several factors that play a role in that.

I love to watch him dance through his shit though. 🙂

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