# Use the Internet?? BE AWARE! . Stop SOPA and PIPA!! (U.S. and worldwide)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 14, 2012, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740 "2012-01-14T04:18:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![FadetoBlack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fadetoblack/32/6118_2.png) [@FadetoBlack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FadetoBlack)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/21 "2012-01-15T20:13:44Z")

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Barry won’t veto this?

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/22 "2012-01-15T20:17:23Z")

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> **[Obama Administration Makes Statement on SOPA & Protect IP Act](http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/01/obama-administration-makes-statement-on-sopa-protect-ip-act)**
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> The President responds to the controversial Internet bills.

  
Promising. Although if Mr. Big Business Romney were to get elected, you could mark this one signed.

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**Author:** ![Multisynclg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/multisynclg/32/5328_2.png) [@Multisynclg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Multisynclg)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/23 "2012-01-16T11:05:12Z")

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Without too many smart-ass comments;  
Are canadians able to do anything to help in this battle  
or are we useless

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/24 "2012-01-16T11:19:31Z")

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New World Order… coming to a world wide web near you.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/25 "2012-01-16T11:59:18Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Although if Mr. Big Business Romney were to get elected, you could mark this one signed.

Nice try Joe, lol.

Romney (as well as most Republicans) are against this and here is video of him talking about it: [Mitt Romney Slams SOPA [VIDEO] | Merrimack, NH Patch](http://merrimack.patch.com/articles/video-mitt-romney-slams-sopa#video-8809832)

… While your Democrat White House has said they want a bill THIS YEAR (2012) that addresses this:

> “That is why the Administration calls on all sides to work together to pass sound legislation this year that provides prosecutors and rights holders new legal tools to combat online piracy originating beyond U.S. borders”

[https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition-tool/response/combating-online-piracy-while-protecting-open-and-innovative-internet](https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition-tool/response/combating-online-piracy-while-protecting-open-and-innovative-internet)

^^ Note the source of that quote.

> [@Multisynclg](#):
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> Without too many smart-ass comments;  
> Are canadians able to do anything to help in this battle  
> or are we useless

This isn’t going to happen in current form, don’t get too worked up about it like the tin foil crew. This is simply part of a process where things are proposed and things are changed. The latest effort is the OPEN act ( [http://keepthewebopen.com/](http://keepthewebopen.com/) ) which tries to use current trade laws instead of creating “new legal tools” as the White House puts it.

Comparison chart from the website:

Will something eventually get passed? Maybe, but we’re a long way from Obama signing anything. But you can rest assured the current SOPA and Protect IP will not get through.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/26 "2012-01-16T12:05:07Z")

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If Romney is against something now, he will probably be for it in a year. He doesn’t like to keep the same position too long. OPEN act sounds promising so that they can say they passed something and tell the industry to STFU. Haven’t looked at it too far in depth.

EDIT: Wikipedia joining the blackout wed :tup:

> **[Wikipedia to join Web blackout protesting SOPA](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikipedia-to-join-web-blackout-protesting-sopa/)**
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> English version of online encyclopedia to shut down for 24 hours to oppose controversial antipiracy bill

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/27 "2012-01-16T12:31:48Z")

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Romney has nothing to do with this. He’s not in congress writing or proposing the bills and he’s not in the White House to sign them into law. And since the Obama White House wants a reconciled bill before the election this issue will have been decided before anyone even votes for or against Romney.

The industry actually doesn’t like OPEN because they say the processes take too long. But they’re not going to get everything they want anyway.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/28 "2012-01-17T17:41:08Z")

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Bump

> **[Strike Against Sopa!](http://www.sopastrike.com)**
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> Internet goes on strike — blackout everywhere. This Wed Jan 18, many of your favorites sites will be unavailable to you to stop web censorship. Tell everyone, petition even more sites to join.

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**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/29 "2012-01-17T20:16:39Z")

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i wish facebook would join in just because it be so nice to deprive all the addicts out there of it for one day.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/30 "2012-01-17T20:43:51Z")

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I’m going to call Hochul and Schumer tomorrow to register my disapproval. I hope I’m not the only one.

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**Author:** ![FadetoBlack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fadetoblack/32/6118_2.png) [@FadetoBlack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FadetoBlack)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/31 "2012-01-17T21:15:11Z")

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I’ll call too.

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> [@NYstanger](#):
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> i wish facebook would join in just because it be so nice to deprive all the addicts out there of it for one day.

👏

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**Author:** ![Neon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@Neon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neon)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/32 "2012-01-18T00:06:05Z")

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More things for retards to whine about on facebook.

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**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/33 "2012-01-18T05:51:32Z")

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[www.xda-developers.com/sopa/](http://www.xda-developers.com/sopa/)

One of many sites going dark.

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**Author:** ![FadetoBlack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fadetoblack/32/6118_2.png) [@FadetoBlack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FadetoBlack)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/34 "2012-01-18T06:02:56Z")

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Sign Google’s petition:

[https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/](https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/)

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**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/35 "2012-01-18T07:01:27Z")

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Signed, also have my site “dark” as well…

[www.theprogrocker.com](http://www.theprogrocker.com)

\<EDIT\>

Oh yeah, and a site that’s always good for a chuckle going blackout

[www.theoatmeal.com](http://www.theoatmeal.com)

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**Author:** ![Clutchfire](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clutchfire/32/5654_2.png) [@Clutchfire](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clutchfire)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/36 "2012-01-18T07:11:57Z")

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For those that don’t get it or don’t want to read here’s a video explaining this bill.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/31100268?app_id=122963

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/37 "2012-01-18T10:44:45Z")

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Rand Paul and Louise Slaughter are both tweeting opposition to these bills. LOL I think when the queen of socialism and the tea party’s golden boy are both against something you know it’s got to die.

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**Author:** ![k.man](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/k.man/32/5790_2.png) [@k.man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/k.man)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/38 "2012-01-18T16:03:54Z")

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https://player.vimeo.com/video/31100268?app_id=122963

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/39 "2012-01-18T17:55:07Z")

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TED video on it today:

> **[Why SOPA is a bad idea](https://www.ted.com/talks/defend_our_freedom_to_share_or_why_sopa_is_a_bad_idea)**
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> What does a bill like PIPA/SOPA mean to our shareable world? At the TED offices, Clay Shirky delivers a proper manifesto -- a call to defend our freedom to create, discuss, link and share, rather than passively consume.

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**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/use-the-internet-be-aware-stop-sopa-and-pipa-u-s-and-worldwide/219740/40 "2012-01-18T18:45:45Z")

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I’m not sure if there is truth to this or just speculation:

> [@clubsx4.com](#):
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> Why are we participating in the Internet Blackout?  
>   
> **SOPA and PIPA will essentially make website owners legally responsible for user-contributed content.**
> 
> While this is not likely a threat to big websites owned by non-profit or for-profit organizations, it is a problem for small websites owned by individuals, such as this one.
> 
> This website and the domain name are owned by one single person, myself. This website contains no advertisements and brings in no profits. It is supported by a mixture of user donations and my own pocket. For me, this website is a hobby I choose to invest my time and money into.
> 
> As all of you are aware, forums are built by user-contributed information. Other than the VBulletin software, everything on this website has been contributed by all of you. As it currently stands, you are all legally responsible for your own contributed content. **SOPA and PIPA will have the ability to take the responsibility away from users, and place it solely on the site owner.**
> 
> So what does the small website owner do when he suddenly finds himself responsible for every word on every page of his forum? Essentially, the only realistic option is to shut the site down as opposed to open himself up to the legal liability that results from being responsible for every word that every user contributes.
> 
> Our participation in this Blackout is to fight against SOPA and PIPA, and to do our part to show the American people and the American Government that legislating these kinds of laws could kill virtually all small individually owned websites, and significantly impact larger sites that are also user-content based.
> 
> Aren’t SOPA and PIPA important because they will stop online piracy and make people accountable?
> 
> If all SOPA and PIPA accomplished was to stop online piracy and make people accountable, we would be in support of these bills. But these bills have a broader reach. The result of these bills being passed would negatively affect small websites in the ways I mentioned above. If these bill pass in the form they are in now, it could mean the end for small individually-owned websites. The internet could almost entirely consist of websites by large corporations who have the legal and financial resources to continue to publish online content, while all others will flounder and sink.

Another :tinfoilhat: **rumor** I’ve heard is; say on nyspeed I make an anti-GM post, GM gets wind of this, and can have the site shut down or take legal action against this site’s owners. But, like I said **RUMOR** , and my example is exaggerated.

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