# VAGCOM, Data logging, Tuning, 10% Ethanol Fuel Questions. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [April 29, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667 "2008-04-29T06:32:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/21 "2008-04-30T05:58:45Z")
On the plus side its keeping everyones fuel systems sqeaky clean. I dont buy injector cleaner any more… waste of money ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/22 "2008-04-30T06:05:42Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > The gasoline is just the outside of the box. Ethanol is fucking us in many more ways. explain ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/23 "2008-04-30T06:08:01Z")
If you like corn on the cob you can expect that to double in price. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/24 "2008-04-30T06:12:50Z")
> [@elzzifynneb](#): > > explain As consumers, the cheaper gallon/gas is eliminated as you get less MPG. I haven’t done the math but I’d suspect is probably worse or near worse. But, think beyond the box. The Corn lobbyist got their wish but the rising costs of corn affect other things. Think of ALL of the other products used by corn including feeding cattle. Do you like steak/ Have you noticed the increased grocery costs lately? ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/25 "2008-04-30T06:31:41Z")
What else are we going to run our fuel consuming internal combustion engines on when there is no more gasoline? We are all going to end up driving electric cars to work and breaking out the corn fueled toys on the weekends. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/26 "2008-04-30T06:44:20Z")
> [@Johawk](#): > > What else are we going to run our fuel consuming internal combustion engines on when there is no more gasoline? We are all going to end up driving electric cars to work and breaking out the corn fueled toys on the weekends. There are alternative fuels but when you have a gov’t admin in bed with oil companies, it’s not that much of a priority. ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/27 "2008-04-30T06:48:28Z")
Yup… agreed ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/28 "2008-04-30T06:49:35Z")
> [@Johawk](#): > > What else are we going to run our fuel consuming internal combustion engines on when there is no more gasoline? We are all going to end up driving electric cars to work and breaking out the corn fueled toys on the weekends. That’s how I imagine it. It might seem odd now, but in a not too distant future when you drive your “classic 90’s” car on the road you will seem like a novelty and be considered as much of a pollutant in general population’s eye as we consider the old muscle cars to be now. Internial combustion engine will seem to have similar respect as steam powered engines have now. ---
**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/29 "2008-04-30T06:59:52Z")
Internal combustion technology has come a long way. It will probably always be around in the form of bio diesel hybrid freight trucks or something similar. Forgeting to plug in your car at night would suck. I cant even remember to charge my damn cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/30 "2008-04-30T07:06:27Z")
bicycles ftw ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/31 "2008-04-30T07:09:29Z")
Switchgrass\>corn [http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=grass-makes-better-ethanol-than-corn](http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=grass-makes-better-ethanol-than-corn) ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/32 "2008-04-30T07:10:09Z")
> [@Johawk](#): > > Internal combustion technology has come a long way. It will probably always be around in the form of bio diesel hybrid freight trucks or something similar. Forgeting to plug in your car at night would suck. I cant even remember to charge my damn cell phone. I think this will generate a whole new discussion and I’ll split it up. However gas stations would start going out of business… rapidly. Since most of the pupulation will no longer have a need to go and “fill up”, however I would assume AAA and other emergency assistance business would boom. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/33 "2008-05-03T18:25:47Z")
> [@Johawk](#): > > What else are we going to run our fuel consuming internal combustion engines on when there is no more gasoline? We are all going to end up driving electric cars to work and breaking out the corn fueled toys on the weekends. [http://businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041\_945564.htm](http://businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/34 "2008-05-04T20:23:37Z")
> [@crxgator](#): > > [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](http://businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm) We should be heating the peak within a decade. ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667/35 "2008-05-07T18:34:49Z")
> [@votblindub](#): > > which car? huhhh, ohh sorry my jetta… ya this reply is past due. ohh well [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vagcom-data-logging-tuning-10-ethanol-fuel-questions/236667.md?page=1)