# vdream **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [October 19, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vdream/128952 "2009-10-19T17:30:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 127
**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vdream/128952/127 "2009-11-12T00:31:59Z")
> [@FS: 93 ford ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-93-ford-ranger/24781/5): > > Haha, I think you guys made a big mistake going with the Elise. You know how you get more money from a win if you’re the underdog, right? You can use that to check who’s car is faster at that specific race, regardless of who won, because there’s a luck component. > All the wins I got from your cars were NOT underdog wins, so that means that my FD winning was not a stroke of luck, and it was the natural thing. You should either look into changing your car’s setup, or changing your car. How can you check that? I have a buddy who keeps beating me with it. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vdream/128952)._