# Vegas Shooting

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 2, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912 "2017-10-02T07:22:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/41 "2017-10-02T19:17:44Z")

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Any info on this full auto weapon? almost sounded belt fed?

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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/42 "2017-10-02T19:29:01Z")

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I just watched his brothers interview on tv, almost looked fake. The brother is so calm about it, doesn’t seem as shocked as he should be.

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And why do they keep showing a picture of the guy with his eyes closed, it’s like a candid picture, it doesn’t really show how he normally looks.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/43 "2017-10-02T20:08:44Z")

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Some holier than holy Canadian got into on FB preaching about gun control, Bing I need you to give me a good insult that uses maple syrup and apologetic humor.

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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/44 "2017-10-02T21:52:56Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> Nobody has ever killed or injured that many with a truck.

About that…

> **[At Least 84 Dead After Truck Crashes Into Crowd in Nice, France](https://time.com/4407268/nice-attack-france-truck-bastille-day/)**
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> Police declared it a terror attack

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/6/f6362e3d5d2160854c2a03785c41a390d7e7efa7.jpeg "Terror in France | 9 News Perth") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5d7NkD_Cc)

If this guy drove a truck through the crowd he probably would have killed more people.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/45 "2017-10-03T00:18:01Z")

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> [@Motocrossx23](#):
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> Some holier than holy Canadian got into on FB preaching about gun control, Bing I need you to give me a good insult that uses maple syrup and apologetic humor.

try this quote i got a ton of likes for with some ROC dudes 🙂

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> the irony here is that the only reason people enjoy the privilege of not needing guns is because they are protected from people with guns by other people with guns.

and in context, when you go up the hierarchy it is ultimately American’s with guns that are protecting everyone else. By that i mean the US military as World Police, which they are.

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/46 "2017-10-03T03:07:19Z")

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> [@juicedz4](#):
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> $1 he didnt have an auto weapon, but something with slide fire or the like.

I read unsubstantiated reports of slide fire with Surefire 60 round mags

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/47 "2017-10-03T05:34:27Z")

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AP is reporting he had two weapons with bump stocks

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/48 "2017-10-03T05:50:45Z")

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> [@stuiephoto](#):
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> [QUOTE=Joe;4685514]Nobody has ever killed or injured that many with a truck.

About that…

> **[At Least 84 Dead After Truck Crashes Into Crowd in Nice, France](https://time.com/4407268/nice-attack-france-truck-bastille-day/%5B/QUOTE%5D/)**
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> Police declared it a terror attack

 ![https://i.redd.it/f8ewhwuz5ipz.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/f/5f0f6a113d119edd06aee06c2eef76d8b6c2cfcd.png)

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**Author:** ![drewster99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drewster99/32/5468_2.png) [@drewster99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drewster99)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/49 "2017-10-03T05:57:35Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> any of you guys seeing the various videos of the firing coming from the 4th floor (approximately) as opposed to the 32nd floor as reported?

To me that just looks like one of the millions of Vegas lights flashing off the glass.

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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/50 "2017-10-03T06:02:09Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> ![https://i.redd.it/f8ewhwuz5ipz.png](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/f/5f0f6a113d119edd06aee06c2eef76d8b6c2cfcd.png)

The people who protest the police want those same cops to go door to door taking guns from people. Here’s a plan that will solve at least one problem. Make the people who want strict gun control be the ones that have to go knocking on doors. The problem will sort itself out in no time at all. We live in an age where you can LITERALLY 3d print parts for an assault rifle in your kitchen. Ban them, and the only people who will have them are the ones intent on doing harm.

People freak out after events like these because of the randomness of it. No one wants to think that they could be killed at a concert. Almost the same number of people are murdered in Chicago each month, but because they weren’t all killed at once, no one cares (or because they were Black, which is more likely).

Guns are the weapon of choice because the news does nothing but talk about how effective they are at killing people. Little do people know-- the fact that this guy used guns and not some other tool probably saved a lot of lives. You dont just buy a gun and become a proficient killing machine. You have to be able to actually hit targets. This guy was a pilot and had 2 airplanes. He could have filled his airplane with gasoline cans and flew it straight into the crowd, killing EVERYONE.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/51 "2017-10-03T07:33:56Z")

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We were talking about the weird and inconsistent rate of fire in the video’s yesterday. I said it sounded like one of those old hand crank gatling guns (while knowing it wasn’t that). A bump stock makes sense. It was too fast and consistent to be someone repeatedly pulling the trigger but it wasn’t fast and consistent enough to be a true full auto conversion.

+1 to being lucky he didn’t rig up a plane and fly it into the crowd.

Still no release of a motive huh? Shocked he didn’t leave some kind of manifesto. He obviously put a lot of time into planning this. Just getting that many long guns into a suite without raising any suspicion must have taken some planning.

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**Author:** ![stuiephoto](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stuiephoto/32/6070_2.png) [@stuiephoto](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stuiephoto)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/52 "2017-10-03T07:38:32Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> We were talking about the weird and inconsistent rate of fire in the video’s yesterday. I said it sounded like one of those old hand crank gatling guns (while knowing it wasn’t that). A bump stock makes sense. It was too fast and consistent to be someone repeatedly pulling the trigger but it wasn’t fast and consistent enough to be a true full auto conversion.
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> +1 to being lucky he didn’t rig up a plane and fly it into the crowd.
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> Still no release of a motive huh? Shocked he didn’t leave some kind of manifesto. He obviously put a lot of time into planning this. Just getting that many long guns into a suite without raising any suspicion must have taken some planning.

Im not sure there was as much time planning as we think. He had bomb making materials but didn’t go through with the bomb portion. That makes me think either A. He couldn’t figure out how to make it or B. He ran out of time.

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**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/53 "2017-10-03T07:47:03Z")

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The whole story seems crazy, I’ve read he’s a wealthy individual possibly a millionaire?

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**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/54 "2017-10-03T08:01:51Z")

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Id think getting that much ammo up there would be the real challenge.

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/55 "2017-10-03T08:25:47Z")

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Idk… 2 large rolling travel bags…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/56 "2017-10-03T08:29:29Z")

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Have some of you never been to Vegas? Its literally luggage carts all day there.

I teach every summer at Mandalay or Ceasars and usually bring 2-3 huge pelican cases across the casino floor nobody says anything.

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> [@JayS](#):
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> We were talking about the weird and inconsistent rate of fire in the video’s yesterday. I said it sounded like one of those old hand crank gatling guns (while knowing it wasn’t that). A bump stock makes sense. It was too fast and consistent to be someone repeatedly pulling the trigger but it wasn’t fast and consistent enough to be a true full auto conversion.
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> +1 to being lucky he didn’t rig up a plane and fly it into the crowd.
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> Still no release of a motive huh? Shocked he didn’t leave some kind of manifesto. He obviously put a lot of time into planning this. Just getting that many long guns into a suite without raising any suspicion must have taken some planning.

I have seen random posts about him recording everything from inside the hotel room maybe there is a manifesto or something?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/57 "2017-10-03T08:40:38Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> I have seen random posts about him recording everything from inside the hotel room maybe there is a manifesto or something?

Maybe, but at the rate info normally leaks to the media I would think if it existed we would have heard about it already. The lack of any social media posts or live streaming from the shooter is the biggest reason I don’t believe ISIS’s claim of responsibility. The other side of that is, at least from what I’ve read, the guy wasn’t the unsuccessful loser type that would be angry with the world and want to go out while hurting as many people as possible. I’m sure the investigation will turn something up though.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/58 "2017-10-03T08:43:01Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Maybe, but at the rate info normally leaks to the media I would think if it existed we would have heard about it already. The lack of any social media posts or live streaming from the shooter is the biggest reason I don’t believe ISIS’s claim of responsibility. The other side of that is, at least from what I’ve read, the guy wasn’t the unsuccessful loser type that would be angry with the world and want to go out while hurting as many people as possible. I’m sure the investigation will turn something up though.

Well pics of the guns and the shooter dead just leaked so who knows

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/59 "2017-10-03T09:35:46Z")

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> [@Wahoo](#):
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> The whole story seems crazy, I’ve read he’s a wealthy individual possibly a millionaire?

Osama Bin Laden was a millionaire too.

So was the underwear bomber.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vegas-shooting/274912/60 "2017-10-03T10:01:47Z")

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This definitely has signs of a false flag operation.

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