# Verizons new friends, family, and NSA plan... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 6, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043 "2013-06-06T07:04:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/41 "2013-06-07T08:09:28Z")
> [@joelster](#): > > Where’s anonymous when you need them? They could hack that database and heads would roll. > **[Anonymous Just Leaked a Trove of NSA Documents](https://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773)** > > In the wake of last night’s revelation that everyone in the world has a creepy NSA-shaped stalker, defenders of online liberty and generally angry internet people Anonymous have leaked a treasure trove of NSA documents, including seriously important... Sorry if repost, busy day at work. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/42 "2013-06-07T08:17:19Z")
Well it appears the UK government is also involved in the PRISM program > **[UK government is allegedly involved in US internet spying program PRISM](https://www.theverge.com/2013/6/7/4405906/uk-government-is-allegedly-involved-in-us-internet-spying-program)** > > A major intelligence agency in the United Kingdom is part of the US government's massive secret internet user spying program PRISM, according to leaked documents obtained by The Guardian. The UK's... ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/43 "2013-06-07T10:17:56Z")
[https://youtu.be/KKvvOFIHs4k](https://youtu.be/KKvvOFIHs4k) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/44 "2013-06-07T10:40:00Z")
![https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53342606/verizon.jpg](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53342606/verizon.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/45 "2013-06-07T10:44:36Z")
I saw a PRISM parody account tweet this: > So, how’s everyone doing tonight? Haha JK we already know ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/46 "2013-06-07T12:30:21Z")
Must be a stressful week for the Obama man. He went to do a speech this morning on healthcare and didn’t have his notes at the podium. > **[Obama speech-less](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/07/obama-speech-less/?hpt=hp_t1)** > > (CNN) -- President Barack Obama got off to an awkward and unusual start Friday morning as he took the stage to give a speech on health care reform. > > Once he took the podium, he realized he didn't have anything to talk about. > > "Good morning... I envisioned this as he response: “Sorry folks, I lost my notes. Eh, the hell with it, I’ll just read a few of your emails instead!” ---
**Author:** ![SilencingMachine](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silencingmachine/32/7593_2.png) [@SilencingMachine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilencingMachine)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/47 "2013-06-07T19:05:29Z")
…came here to mention this, but as usual you guys are on top of things lol. :tup: In unrelated news, don’t give a cop a dirty look or you could be committing a felony?.. > **[NY Senate passes Bill that would make annoying a cop a felony](https://www.infowars.com/ny-senate-passes-bill-that-would-make-annoying-a-cop-a-felony/)** > > Adan Salazar | Bill would basically allow police to arrest based on their own subjective impulses. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/48 "2013-06-07T19:35:22Z")
Anyone use Cryptocat, encrypted chat plugin/software? NSA approved? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/49 "2013-06-07T19:42:08Z")
Jabber + OTR plugin will encrypt, and it’s typically what most people do for encypted chat. [http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/](http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/) [http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/1634/which-instant-messaging-services-use-or-allow-secure-protocols-and-what-do-thos](http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/1634/which-instant-messaging-services-use-or-allow-secure-protocols-and-what-do-thos) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/50 "2013-06-07T19:54:32Z")
OTR ftw If you want encrypted text and cell check out [https://whispersystems.org/](https://whispersystems.org/) It’s funny when people doing illegal things use OTR but forget to disable chat client logging and then get raided ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/51 "2013-06-10T06:32:48Z")
Edward Snowden reveals himself as the person who released the info and hes deflected to China. If you ask me, this guy is a true Patriot. Basically just threw his life away to attempt to protect others. [http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why) ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/52 "2013-06-10T06:37:37Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > Edward Snowden reveals himself as the person who released the info and hes deflected to China. If you ask me, this guy is a true Patriot. Basically just threw his life away to attempt to protect others. > > [Edward Snowden, NSA files source: 'If they want to get you, in time they will' | The NSA files | The Guardian](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why) It will be interesting to see what happens to him as a result. Honestly, revealing his identity to the public might have actually been the safer thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/53 "2013-06-10T06:39:32Z")
People are comparing this to the Bradley Manning bullshit…Bradley released operation details and all kinds of documents that put people in danger. This guy just released information about a program It’s funny see to each political party take sides on this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/54 "2013-06-10T06:40:49Z")
He was only with the NSA for 3 months haha. Oh boy. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/55 "2013-06-10T06:43:43Z")
> [@Beck](#): > > He was only with the NSA for 3 months haha. > > Oh boy. I’m sure he wasn’t at the NSA for 3 months… It takes long then that to get a TS ---------- Post added at 09:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 AM ---------- **Q: What do the leaked documents reveal?** A: “That the NSA routinely lies in response to congressional inquiries about the scope of surveillance in America. I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinised most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.” **Q: What about the Obama administration’s protests about hacking by China?** A: “We hack everyone everywhere. We like to make a distinction between us and the others. But we are in almost every country in the world. We are not at war with these countries.” ---
**Author:** ![Beck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/beck/32/28683_2.png) [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/56 "2013-06-10T06:44:23Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I’m sure he wasn’t at the NSA for 3 months… > > It takes long then that to get a TS > > ---------- Post added at 09:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 AM ---------- > > **Q: What do the leaked documents reveal?** > > A: “That the NSA routinely lies in response to congressional inquiries about the scope of surveillance in America. I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinised most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.” > > **Q: What about the Obama administration’s protests about hacking by China?** > > A: “We hack everyone everywhere. We like to make a distinction between us and the others. But we are in almost every country in the world. We are not at war with these countries.” > **[Snowden Worked For Us Less Than 3 Months: Booz Allen](https://www.ibtimes.com/nsa-whistleblower-revealed-edward-snowden-worked-booz-allen-less-three-months-1297721)** > > Booz Allen says NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden worked for the company less than three months before leaking NSA documents to the press. Sorry, he was at Booz Allen for less than 3 months. Same thing, bad wording, my bad. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/57 "2013-06-10T06:44:58Z")
> [@BOBBYGRV](#): > > Edward Snowden reveals himself as the person who released the info and hes deflected to China. If you ask me, this guy is a true Patriot. Basically just threw his life away to attempt to protect others. > > [Edward Snowden, NSA files source: 'If they want to get you, in time they will' | The NSA files | The Guardian](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why) I think it was pretty dumb to reveal himself while in HK. US HK relations are strong and I wouldn’t be surprised if the US leaned on HK and they just hand him over to gain some good will with the whole Chinese state sponsored hacking allegations. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/58 "2013-06-10T06:46:41Z")
The world is a giant cluster of fucks right now when it comes to computers, the internet, and security China is hacking everybody… Goverment is tracking everybody… Iran and other shitty countries are trying to hack the US… Nobody has any idea how to fix/stop/control any of this :lol: The US wants to be able to play the offensive game on the internet and hacking other countries but them not sharing vulnerabilities with the private sector and other parts of the government leaves the US vulnerable. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/59 "2013-06-10T06:47:05Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > People are comparing this to the Bradley Manning bullshit…Bradley released operation details and all kinds of documents that put people in danger. > > This guy just released information about a program > > It’s funny see to each political party take sides on this issue. Exactly. Bradley Manning deserves the court marshal he’s almost certainly going to get. Edward Snowden deserves a medal. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043/60 "2013-06-10T06:48:40Z")
I don’t think they will turn him over. If anything, they will probably approach him to try and see what other information they can get out of him, but they probably have what they need from us already… ---------- Post added at 09:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ---------- > [@LZ](#): > > The world is a giant cluster of fucks right now when it comes to computers, the internet, and security > > China is hacking everybody… > Goverment is tracking everybody… > Iran and other shitty countries are trying to hack the US… > > Nobody has any idea how to fix/stop/control any of this :lol: > > The US wants to be able to play the offensive game on the internet and hacking other countries but them not sharing vulnerabilities with the private sector and other parts of the government leaves the US vulnerable. According to this guy, the U.S. is hacking everyone too…it’s no wonder the government isn’t doing more to stop China from hacking us… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/verizons-new-friends-family-and-nsa-plan/231043.md?page=4)