# Victorsmalls' 04 Grand Prix
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [March 10, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038 "2008-03-10T20:01:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 11
### Author:  [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/201 "2009-10-31T16:02:39Z")
it’s a pin in the PCM thats switched ground. basically ground that pin and you’ll use the perf shift tables. i leave mine grounded all the time and just play with those tables
remember shift points and the time your shift completes are 2 different things. always take for granted the fact that it takes a couple hundred RPMs for your shift to complete. for example on my car, 1st gear winds out quick (3.29s) and my clutches are worn so my car will actually rev 400-500 RPMs between the beginning of the shift and it’s completion. i have my shift points low purposely for this. 1-2 still completes at 6500 but it’s set much lower
knowing this will help with issues with valve float or having your rev limiter/fuel cutoff set too low. when i first set my shift points where i wanted them the 1-2 would bang the rev limiter and i didn’t know why, i had it set higher than the shift point but it wasn’t high enough.
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### Author:  [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/202 "2009-11-01T06:03:45Z")
^Great stuff. My Regal shifts 2-300 RPM over the set shift point too. My Monte Carlo is about ~100 higher. 6200-6400 RPM shifts with the turbo spooling should be good fun.
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### Author:  [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/203 "2009-11-03T17:32:58Z")
Got the car fired up today. Seems to idle smooth, but got a lot of misfires on #2. I will be swapping wires, checking plug, and checking injector connection tomorrow. Hopefully have it buttoned up enough for short drive tomorrow.
More pics when I get everything straight.
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### Author:  [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/204 "2009-11-03T17:38:35Z")
wow very sweet! you see that w-bodystore has some CNC heads up on their page? $1000 no core charge.
I’m wondering if i should do those or go full size IC. I’m thinking intercooler still, i was working on my own heads but that got put on the back burner
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### Author:  [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/205 "2009-11-04T04:03:08Z")
if ur cammed also u may see miss fires at idle
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### Author:  [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/206 "2009-11-04T04:23:33Z")
> [@Detroit 2008: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V revealed with 550 HP](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/detroit-2008-2009-cadillac-cts-v-revealed-with-550-hp/41503/13):
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> if ur cammed also u may see miss fires at idle
No cam as of yet, just 1.84 roller rockers. I did read that alot of 3800 turbo guys have some misfires at idle due to the plugs and gap. I imagine that would end up being on all cylinders rather than my problem of one cylinder though.
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### Author:  [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/207 "2009-11-04T10:37:30Z")
Awesome! Looks great.
I think that 3800s are prone to misfires. I’m always recording a few at startup on both of my 3800 cars.
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### Author:  [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/208 "2009-11-04T11:00:46Z")
I want to hear it, get some vids! Looks good Dave! :bigthumb:
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### Author:  [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/209 "2009-11-04T13:55:48Z")
> [@Rob & Big](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rob-big/29698/15):
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> I want to hear it, get some vids! Looks good Dave! :bigthumb:
I will get some soon 🙂
It sounds nasty with the cutout open.
I drove it home today from the shop and have it about 1/2 the beans to 8psi and it is a different car. I can tell already it will break loose in second on the street tires if I push on it too hard 🙂
Just need to work on some bugs and get everything ironed out.
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### Author:  [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/210 "2009-11-04T15:21:28Z")
congrats man !
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### Author:  [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/211 "2009-11-06T19:12:54Z")
yeah it will take some time to get everything going good. if you can’t find the source of the miss just start swapping shit around and see if it moves. you may just have a weak coil or something
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### Author:  [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/212 "2009-11-06T19:37:19Z")
thats awesome !!! cant wait to see more pics n video !
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### Author:  [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/213 "2009-11-08T11:32:00Z")
I took the car out to Kurt’s and it ran good. No problems.
The exterior pics didn’t turn out. I had lost the light and was without a tripod.
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### Author:  [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/214 "2009-11-08T11:37:46Z")
Looking gooood David
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2009, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/215 "2009-11-08T11:47:58Z")
Car felt good, got lots of compliments this weekend.
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### Author:  [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/216 "2009-11-08T13:13:33Z")
lookin good.
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### Author:  [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/217 "2009-11-08T14:57:57Z")
looking real good with that front mount!
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### Author:  [@Sinner6.0L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sinner6.0L)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/218 "2009-11-08T15:30:10Z")
\<— jealous, maybe if i got a real job i could afford something like that :bigok:
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### Author:  [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/219 "2009-11-11T07:12:54Z")
> [@What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? Pt. NYSpeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-listening-to-right-now-pt-nyspeed/183/897):
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> looking real good with that front mount!
x2 car looks really good !
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### Author:  [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2009, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/victorsmalls-04-grand-prix/196038/220 "2009-11-11T09:05:32Z")
bad ass man…looks great
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