# Viper Twin Turbo Builds.... x 3
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [May 24, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550 "2010-05-24T22:00:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/1 "2010-05-24T22:00:48Z")
Just a few new toys actually being bolted/stuck/riveted and screwed into place. Finally.
iForged Imola, 21x14" Rim, Anthracite Center, Carbon Fiber Lip, Orange Pinstripe. Mounted with a Pirelli Pzero in 375/20/21
Pectel SQ-6M12 ECU [Cosworth Electronics/Pi Research, think F1, World Rally, Superbike, etc], Full AutoSport Connections, Native V-10/V-12 Controller, Full Sequential Ignition and Fuel up to 12 Cylinders, 4-Calibration Programming, Internally Stored- Switch Selectable, Integrated Dual Closed Loop Wideband, Low Impedance P&H Drivers, Logic Drivers, Dual dedicated 12-bit Thermocouples, Dual Dedicated Knock, Integral Dual FBW Control, Variable Camshaft Control, Integral Launch/Traction Control, Integrated Closed-Loop Boost Control, Available Dual-Clutch Man/Auto Trans Control, Aux Full Bridge/Stepper Motor Control, 4mb 2000hz Internal Logging, 12 Ded. Analog inputs, 10 Aux Analog inputs, 10 Digital Inputs, 6 Dig Outputs, 14 PWM Outputs, 8 Relay controls, 3 CAN, 1 Serial, 1 Ethernet [This is the ECU that can make even the MoTeC salesman say “It can do WHAT?”]
Pi Research Omega Digital Dashboard, fully configurable by Pectel Datastream, all channels of ECU available. 128mb internal logging, Ethernet Download, Chassis Sensor logging and display capability, ~30 aux inputs + Pectel Datastream, Predictive Lap and Telemetry features.
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### Author:  [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/2 "2010-05-24T22:10:34Z")
Dan quit being on dope and post better pics. Then explain wtf people are looking at! haha
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2010, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/3 "2010-05-24T22:28:44Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> Dan quit being on dope and post better pics. Then explain wtf people are looking at! haha
No way to really post much better pics atm…
Just added info to pics.
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### Author:  [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/4 "2010-05-25T05:50:11Z")
I want to see pics of the vehicle. All of it, plz
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### Author:  [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/5 "2010-05-25T05:51:26Z")
:tup: keep up the good work Dan.
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### Author:  [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/6 "2010-05-25T05:56:51Z")
> [@Wahoo](#):
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> I want to see pics of the vehicle. All of it, plz
This.
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### Author:  [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/7 "2010-05-25T05:57:43Z")
Customer car? I just saw a red SRT-10 roadster flying down the 90 chasing a gray S2K, so hot :tup:
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/8 "2010-05-25T06:00:59Z")
Looks like rad shit, but come on… There has to be a slicker way to mount a 2000 dollar display than by bolting it to the steering column in front of the old gauges.
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### Author:  [@DR.PUCH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DR.PUCH)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/9 "2010-05-25T06:18:03Z")
> [@newman](#):
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> Looks like rad shit, but come on… There has to be a slicker way to mount a 2000 dollar display than by bolting it to the steering column in front of the old gauges.
good point mine as well sell the OEM clusters gauges for $450.00 thats what they go for on ebay …
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/10 "2010-05-25T06:24:03Z")
I doubt getting $450 for the stock cluster is any motivation
Nice stuff :tup:
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### Author:  [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/11 "2010-05-25T07:28:19Z")
21s on a viper nice!!!
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### Author:  [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/12 "2010-05-25T07:30:14Z")
Is the lip on that rim just a CF overlay over alum?
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/13 "2010-05-25T08:21:39Z")
> [@newman](#):
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> Looks like rad shit, but come on… There has to be a slicker way to mount a 2000 dollar display than by bolting it to the steering column in front of the old gauges.
Eh, not really. The original gauges NEED to be functional and still in place on the databus. Sure, you could hack the dash and push the digital dash recessed in [that would basically be the ONLY other option on this interior] but that would absolutely destroy the dash, and would render ALL of the functions of the dashboard inoperable, since the main cluster is the hub for the PCI bus in the dash. There are also body related item attached to that cluster, which would also be inoperable.
I also think you are overestimating the amount of room around that display, I can barely get my fingers in to twist that Autosport connector on, it is backed right up against the dash. [I had to drop the column for that pic] It actually looks great in person, and is in PERFECT placement to just catch the ODO, Fuel, and MIL cluster off to the sides from driver position.
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### Author:  [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/14 "2010-05-25T08:21:59Z")
better pics are needed… full car shots?
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/15 "2010-05-25T08:25:02Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#):
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> Customer car? I just saw a red SRT-10 roadster flying down the 90 chasing a gray S2K, so hot :tup:
Controller parts are mine, wheels are customer. Customers car does not have controller mounted yet, it will run an SQ6 and Pi Omega.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/16 "2010-05-25T08:27:40Z")
It just seems to me that on such a high profile build that you could relocate the cluster, or at least make a bezel that goes around it, especially since you’re not paying for it :D. I like the tacked on look… i feel the same way about my fender flares… but I feel like someone who bought 21" carbon fiber wheels won’t…
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/17 "2010-05-25T08:31:09Z")
> [@Wahoo](#):
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> I want to see pics of the vehicle. All of it, plz
Not really much to visibly show yet on either… still building the sub-systems before the “big stuff” gets bolted on.
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> [@newman](#):
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> It just seems to me that on such a high profile build that you could relocate the cluster, or at least make a bezel that goes around it, especially since you’re not paying for it :D. I like the tacked on look… i feel the same way about my fender flares… but I feel like someone who bought 21" carbon fiber wheels won’t…
Nope… these guys are on the same level you are for that kind of stuff. They want function, not something pretty with sacrifices. Putting it in the dash= large amount of car not working, display buttons inoperative. Pretty bezel= cant read fuel, MIL cluster, or ODO. Also, they want the ability to remove the dash, and easily add the second autosport connector for a temp Chassis harness if need be just for the track, which can be re-configured and easily removed for street use and alterations.
Drop by one of these days and take a look… you will see how there is literally no other option with this setup, and that is actually looks fine. The dash is designed to be a bracket/surface mount, not recessed in any case. The flash on the camera makes the bracket MUCH more noticeable than it really is, it is hidden by the dash completely.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/18 "2010-05-25T08:37:43Z")
Can’t that dash display the fuel/cluster/mil? I know that my cheap DASH2 can… as far as relocating the cluster, i meant can’t you drop the OEM cluster back more, or relocate it to another area?
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### Author:  [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/19 "2010-05-25T08:40:01Z")
The dash can, yes, but you probably dont know- the ENTIRE gauge system on the Viper is all over a Databus. There are actually no direct sensor inputs into the gauge cluster. The gauge cluster receives the bus communications and decodes them to run its internal gauges, or outputs the raw signals to a secondary cluster. it also runs all of the other dash communication between the BCM and the dash items. In short, none of the inputs to the gauges could be decoded by the display anyway… I would have to re-wire the entire car to add them, and I would STILL lose dash functionality.
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/viper-twin-turbo-builds-x-3/155550/20 "2010-05-25T08:45:12Z")
> [@Final GTS](#):
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> The dash can, yes, but you probably dont know- the ENTIRE gauge system on the Viper is all over a Databus. There are actually no direct sensor inputs into the gauge cluster. The gauge cluster receives the bus communications and decodes them to run its internal gauges, or outputs the raw signals to a secondary cluster. it also runs all of the other dash communication between the BCM and the dash items. In short, none of the inputs to the gauges could be decoded by the display anyway… I would have to re-wire the entire car to add them, and I would STILL lose dash functionality.
Sure the lotus is the same way, that’s why a lot of guys lose the stock cluster and replace it with a display like this. But you should be able to pull signals from where they meet the ECU/BCM or whatever is encoding the CANBUS, right? As in, before they’re encoded, I can’t see a fuel gauge, or any other sensor that I’d like on a dashboard, even in this day and age, being more than a linear voltage change or a simple digital output.
Not hating, just talking shop.
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