# Virtual border fence approved, virtual Mexicans unsure of future **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 22, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840 "2008-02-22T05:38:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/21 "2008-02-22T13:09:59Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Seriously, you guys kill me, “the govt is the answer to all of our problems, except of course illegals”. > WTF!?!? Cats are active mice _chasers_. Cheese traps are _passive_ death traps. :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/22 "2008-02-22T13:10:54Z")
You guys want companies to treat the symptom of the problem that the govt has created? What about drug dealers and other bad people that don’t get real jobs? Maybe when we tax drug dealers we can also ask them to turn in illegals. ---
**Author:** ![Denton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Denton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Denton)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/23 "2008-02-22T13:12:05Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > They are illegal whether they work or not. > Stop them before they get in. Why should we pay for a fence to keep them out? If they can’t make money, they won’t stay. BTW The employers are the ones breaking the law. ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/24 "2008-02-22T13:12:11Z")
THE COMPANIES ARE THE PROBLEM!!! The government didn’t create the marketplace for cheap undocumented labor ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/25 "2008-02-22T13:12:59Z")
If there were no drug users, what would the dealer do? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/26 "2008-02-22T13:13:50Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > THE COMPANIES ARE THE PROBLEM!!! The government didn’t create the marketplace for cheap undocumented labor No the unions did and the govt folded and helped them by making it impossible for US companies to compete. Holy shit dude your Ralph Nader brain washing is far to great for me to set you straight! So the companies are the problem and you want them to fix the problem? Keep talking and show how fucked your logic is. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/27 "2008-02-22T13:16:00Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Holy shit dude your Ralph Nader brain washing is far to great for me to set you straight! Would it really be that hard to NOT hire an illegal immigrant? You make it sound like it would take massive effort by putting the onus on the employer. ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/28 "2008-02-22T13:16:08Z")
How is illegal immigration the fault of the government more so than the companies who create the incentive for the illegal immigration in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/29 "2008-02-22T13:28:06Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Would it really be that hard to NOT hire an illegal immigrant? You make it sound like it would take massive effort by putting the onus on the employer. You are missing the point. Companies should not have that responsibilty. What would happen if people got fake id and a company hired them? Do you want the company to enforce id laws as well? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/30 "2008-02-22T13:30:49Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > How is illegal immigration the fault of the government more so than the companies who create the incentive for the illegal immigration in the first place? Companies create the incentive?:lol: If by companies you mean people like Ted Kennedy I will tell you. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/31 "2008-02-22T13:32:31Z")
well if you don’t want to do it then we can just route all hiring/firing through a government agency at no cost (aside from weeks of delay) to you. ---
**Author:** ![FightinMike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@FightinMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FightinMike)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/32 "2008-02-22T13:34:13Z")
Useless until the towers are equipped with [these](http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/samsung_develops_machine_gun_sentry_robot_costs_200k.php) ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/33 "2008-02-22T13:34:14Z")
> [@newman](#): > > well if you don’t want to do it then we can just route all hiring/firing through a government agency at no cost (aside from weeks of delay) to you. That’s the spirit! Let the government start a new agency instead of using ones we already pay for (Boarder Patrol, ICE, etc). ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/34 "2008-02-22T13:35:07Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Companies create the incentive?:lol: > If by companies you mean people like Ted Kennedy I will tell you. OMFG what are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/35 "2008-02-22T13:37:02Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > OMFG what are you talking about? If we are going to discuss this you need to have at least a basic grip on the US govt and what it is doing to companies. Go read-up and check back in later when you have at least a little clue. ---
**Author:** ![Denton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Denton](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Denton)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/36 "2008-02-22T13:40:35Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > If we are going to discuss this you need to have at least a basic grip on the US govt and what it is doing to companies. > Go read-up and check back in later when you have at least a little clue. Is your argument that the government didn’t do enough to put protectionist tariffs in place? That they passed unfair trade agreements like NAFTA? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/37 "2008-02-22T13:41:48Z")
boo, there goes my good taco al pastor and my maid… seriously she is like $20 a visit it is great ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/38 "2008-02-22T13:43:03Z")
> [@FightinMike](#): > > Useless until the towers are equipped with [these](http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/samsung_develops_machine_gun_sentry_robot_costs_200k.php) what movie is that music from? starts at like 1:15? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/39 "2008-02-22T13:43:04Z")
> [@Denton](#): > > Is your argument that the government didn’t do enough to put protectionist tariffs in place? That they passed unfair trade agreements like NAFTA? No, I don’t want tariffs. I want a level playing field. Edit; Let’s not go too far off topic. DOES ANYONE AGREE WITH ME THAT COMPANIES SHOULD NOT BE THE ENFORCERS? ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840/40 "2008-02-22T13:45:09Z")
i have to agree with joe. the companies may not be the origin of the issue, but they are encouraging, and exploiting it. it has been hugely successful in AZ, and it hasn’t over crowded prisons in the process, or run up huge legal fees for the deportation process. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/virtual-border-fence-approved-virtual-mexicans-unsure-of-future/43840.md?page=3)