# VOIP or Time Warner

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 9, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244 "2008-07-09T08:48:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/1 "2008-07-09T08:48:32Z")

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Its been a slow day at the office so I looked at our phone bill we have 4 lines and a fax line and painfully slow internet (786kbs).

All the calls are domestic with the internet it comes to $580 per month.

Time warner quoted me like $250 but with 5MB up

What else should I look at?

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**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/2 "2008-07-09T09:01:06Z")

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Time warner business class rocks. We will be installing VOIP this month, if you want, I’ll let you know how it goes. We bought our own phone server, so high initial cost but very low monthly.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/3 "2008-07-09T09:04:04Z")

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NSFW?

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/4 "2008-07-09T09:04:29Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> NSFW?

F5

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/5 "2008-07-09T09:43:07Z")

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> [@eesti](#):
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> Time warner business class rocks. We will be installing VOIP this month, if you want, I’ll let you know how it goes. We bought our own phone server, so high initial cost but very low monthly.

Phone server?

What brand equipment did you buy?

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**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/6 "2008-07-09T09:49:46Z")

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Dell

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/7 "2008-07-09T09:53:27Z")

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Im confused when you say VoIP and in house phone server…

Are you using SIP Trunking? or Still using PRIs into the building?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/8 "2008-07-09T09:55:09Z")

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Vonage. Or PM Dozr about a corporate style voip solution (last I knew he worked at [voipsupply.com](http://voipsupply.com))

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**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/9 "2008-07-09T09:59:00Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> Im confused when you say VoIP and in house phone server…
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> Are you using SIP Trunking? or Still using PRIs into the building?

SIP Trunking

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/10 "2008-07-09T10:02:57Z")

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I hate when people call me here when they have Vonage, its such a shitty connection.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/11 "2008-07-09T10:06:48Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> I hate when people call me here when they have Vonage, its such a shitty connection.

vonage isnt shitty, some people try to run it on SHIT dsl…

my parents have it, and i cant tell they have it…

i could get a nice 3com VOIP solution for you guys if you want… just a thought

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/12 "2008-07-09T10:51:25Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> vonage isnt shitty, some people try to run it on SHIT dsl…
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> my parents have it, and i cant tell they have it…
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> **i could get a nice 3com VOIP solution for you guys if you want… just a though** t

what is that? Is it going to cost more than Time warner? If so, whats the advantage?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/13 "2008-07-09T10:54:23Z")

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TW offered you 4 lines + 5mb up? for $250 a month?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/14 "2008-07-09T10:56:18Z")

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> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> I hate when people call me here when they have Vonage, its such a shitty connection.

:lol: Vonage is only as good as your internet connection. Don’t you work for Verizon? If so, that would explain it. People calling with Vonage running on their shitty Verizon DSL connections. In the 4 years I’ve had Vonage the only times I’ve had bad connections was when I had the 384 up TW package and was trying to upload a lot while using the phone. Not Vonage’s fault I ran out of bandwidth though.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/15 "2008-07-09T10:58:38Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> what is that? Is it going to cost more than Time warner? If so, whats the advantage?

stnadalone VOIP hardware that connects to the PBX…

probably wouldnt work for what you guys are trying to do,

Vonage has a business class as well…

couple that with FIOS or TW and u should be good to go

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/16 "2008-07-09T11:13:25Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> TW offered you 4 lines + 5mb up? for $250 a month?

yeah actually it was  
225.75 for 5 down 386kbs up  
265 for 5mb down and 786kbs up  
305 for 6mb down and 1.5mbs up

I just ran a speed test and I am getting 637 kbs down and 373 kbs up right now

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/17 "2008-07-09T11:14:25Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Vonage. Or PM Dozr about a corporate style voip solution (last I knew he worked at [voipsupply.com](http://voipsupply.com))

Only for one more day!

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/18 "2008-07-09T11:17:14Z")

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Sounds like a good deal…

Keep in mind…You need about 100k of bandwidth for each phone line so 500k if all 5 lines were active…If you try to go the Vonage route and probably a router that does QoS

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/19 "2008-07-09T11:20:58Z")

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Save $355 a month and get more bandwidth sounds a like win…

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voip-or-time-warner/51244/20 "2008-07-09T11:38:46Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> :lol: Vonage is only as good as your internet connection. Don’t you work for Verizon? If so, that would explain it. People calling with Vonage running on their shitty Verizon DSL connections. In the 4 years I’ve had Vonage the only times I’ve had bad connections was when I had the 384 up TW package and was trying to upload a lot while using the phone. Not Vonage’s fault I ran out of bandwidth though.

I work for ATT.

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