# Vote for my Vote here in Mass... **URL:** \ **Category:** PolitiSUCK\ **Created:** [January 19, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387 "2010-01-19T10:06:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BluBalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bluballs/32/7212_2.png) [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/1 "2010-01-19T10:06:54Z")
I dislike Martha Coakley but would like to see the health care bill passed. If Brown were for the bill, I’d vote for him in a second. Here is the deal. I’m leaving work at 5PM to go vote, I was tempted to vote for Joe Kennedy because I think that would be better than not voting at all but I’ll take a vote for my vote. Public poll. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/2 "2010-01-19T13:42:34Z")
> [@BluBalls"](#): > > I would like to see the health care bill passed. Saving for later… go republican fyi ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/3 "2010-01-19T13:44:06Z")
Vote for the issues, not the person making the vote ---
**Author:** ![BluBalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bluballs/32/7212_2.png) [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/4 "2010-01-19T13:45:58Z")
k, off to vote 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/5 "2010-01-20T07:46:15Z")
:tup: to the outcome of this one!!! Obama has to have spent the night crying in a closet somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/6 "2010-01-20T09:28:53Z")
it never was pass/fail on the healthcare bill… it was pass as is (vote republican), or pass later with more changes (democrat). ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/7 "2010-01-20T09:41:31Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > it never was pass/fail on the healthcare bill… it was pass as is (vote republican), or pass later with more changes (democrat). What… No not really. Even the Democrats are starting to get shaky and discussing pivoting their position on the bill. If the Mass. seat went to a republican and the major issue was healthcare, they are all scared for their seats. > Massachusetts last elected a Republican to the Senate in 1972, but the shift could not have come at a worse time for Obama. Democrats control 60 votes in the Senate to 40 for the Republicans, and the loss of one Democrat could doom the healthcare bill. > Democratic leaders vowed to push healthcare reform through Congress despite the results, but several Democrats cautioned the party to reconsider its stance. > “It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to take a step back and say we’re going to pivot to do a jobs thing,” Representative Anthony Weiner of New York told reporters. > Republicans said the results confirmed the public’s distaste for Obama’s healthcare overhaul and their anger at being ignored by Democratic lawmakers. > “The voters in Massachusetts, like Americans everywhere, have made it abundantly clear where they stand on healthcare. They don’t want this bill and want Washington to listen to them,” Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell said. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/8 "2010-01-20T09:52:39Z")
don’t you get it… what just happened was that it became a lot harder to change the bill and sent it back for another round of approval. passing it as is didn’t really change much. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/9 "2010-01-20T10:24:44Z")
^ It’s not going to pass as is. The house has stated quite clearly they will not pass the senate bill as is. Any changes to the senate bill will require another vote, which can now be blocked by the Republicans. It’s likely they wouldn’t even have to vote it considering after the MA loss almost any Democrat outside of NY or CA is now terrified to vote for the currently plan. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/10 "2010-01-20T10:29:01Z")
The House bill is much better than the Senate bill. The Senate bill is nothig more than a bunch of handouts to insurance companies and states with shitty flip-flopping senators. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/11 "2010-01-20T10:29:39Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > don’t you get it… what just happened was that it became a lot harder to change the bill and sent it back for another round of approval. passing it as is didn’t really change much. Yes I do get it. You are wrong. Read what JayS posted, and What I quoted you from the AP news wire. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/12 "2010-01-20T10:30:18Z")
as joe quoted in another recent post (and this is spot on) > As to the health-insurance bill, the Democrats have a couple of options as discussed here yesterday. First, they can try to settle their internal differences today, get a CBO score, and pass the bill before senator-elect Brown is seated in early February. Second, they could try to get the House to pass the Senate bill intact and then make changes to it using the budget reconciliation process, which can’t be filibustered. Of course, option three is abandon the whole project and then show up in November empty handed, which will guarantee a Republican landslide. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/13 "2010-01-20T10:54:23Z")
theblue, maybe you’ll believe it if you see it in writing at msnbc? > **[Obama urges pared-back health care bill](http://www.nbcnews.com/id/34953876/ns/politics-health_care_reform/)** > > Chastened by the Democratic Senate loss in the state of Massachusetts, President Barack Obama and congressional allies signaled Wednesday they will try to scale back his sweeping health care overhaul in an effort to at least keep parts of it alive. Cliffs: 1. It’s not going to pass before Brown is seated. 2. The house isn’t going to pass the senate version without promises of big changes once it’s passed, something the new senate can’t promise. 3. Going the reconciliation route requires it to be a finance only bill and there isn’t support for that. Even if there was it would be tough to get 51 votes of support for forcing this through with a nuclear option after seeing what happened in MA. Anyone agreeing to force an unpopular bill through using the reconciliation process that was only supposed to be used for budgetary items would be committing political suicide in this climate. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/14 "2010-01-20T11:06:31Z")
this year’s elections are going to be a referendum on the economy. If it gets better, Democrats win, if it doesn’t, ironically since they were in power when this shitstorm started, Republicans do. Some form of health care is going to go through then I hope for the country’s sake the rest of 2010 is spent bill clinton style. “It’s the economy, stupid.” ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/15 "2010-01-20T11:12:56Z")
gettin bjs and not paying bills? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/16 "2010-01-20T11:47:03Z")
wow jeg that was srsly so stupid. srsly. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/17 "2010-01-20T12:00:36Z")
wow that was srsly sarcasm. srsly. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/18 "2010-01-20T13:08:52Z")
wow jeg that sarcasm was srsly so stupid. srsly ---
**Author:** ![ldp82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b3f665/32.png) [@ldp82](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ldp82)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vote-for-my-vote-here-in-mass/78387/19 "2010-01-20T16:19:03Z")
I voted for brown not that it mattered in my district ☹ very glad he won though 🙂