# Voting for McCain = idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565 "2008-10-16T09:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/221 "2008-11-03T05:15:16Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > Great… Schenectady is Americas middle class in your view. Wow. Ok. I guess if you lumped them all in a pot I could see that… I didn’t say that. I gave a specific range but even that isn’t fair because middle class is a bit more segregated as you indicated below. > [@Jammer](#): > > To me, we have poverty, lower middle, middle, upper middle and above… there are more official names, but we get the point. These four groups make up a huge majority of Americans. Just when and why are we all to be on equal economic platforms? Did I say that we should? How much more bullshit can you make up? I just said the typical middle class (The same people GOP/Dems discuss) have gotten the shit end of the stick. It’s absurd to expect them not to realize this and be pissed. > [@Jammer](#): > > Liberty demands we banter, its the gift the country gives. In the soul of the current campaign is vacuum, one which will restrict liberty (in far more social ways than the shitty Patriot Act) tax us and a desire to make decisions for people, people the liberal left believes we can’t make for themselves. > The sad part is, some can’t make decisions for themselves (aka buying a home you cant afford and entering into a ridiculous loan)… and just like in real life, the trend it add more controls so those incapable to make a decision, can’t be pull in the wrong way. OK? > [@Jammer](#): > > I propose we have a competency test for the right to vote… something simple… like who is the current president and vice president… and such. I think that is fair. Unless this is a GOP method to keep blacks from voting? I also propose that Election Day moved to a Saturday/Sunday or give everyone the day off. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/222 "2008-11-03T05:16:39Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > Okay…your right… Obama isn’t linked to his pastor of 20 years. Your a tard (I mean that completely). Want me to site 3,485 internet sources and videos to prove the connection. WTF. Did I say he wasn’t? Again, you can spin my posts all you want. But, this last second hail mary is more proof that McCain’s campaign is of the Karl Rove type. Wasn’t it McCain who said he wanted to run a clean campaign? Or was this an Obama lie and not a McCain lie? :lol ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/223 "2008-11-03T05:20:11Z")
> [@Murrdog9000](#): > > Personally, I don’t really believe that just because someone is in the military they are knowledgable in politics. Their are a lot of unintelligent people in all branches of the military. I feel the same way about college students. No offense. Kinda? > [@Jammer](#): > > Doggy, > > Well, since the rest of us are idiots, please preach… we’ll listen. We still have the liberty to expell our views…whether people like them, or even understand them. Only the cursed among us care…but we are who we are. We agree! ---
**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/224 "2008-11-03T05:23:39Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > You simply mis-understand the big picture from a standpoint of a red blooded American and someone against socialism and Marxism. This! ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/225 "2008-11-03T07:34:16Z")
I’m not going to get heavily involved here but even the title of this thread is retarded. How do you feel about Socialism? Obama is a socialist. Karl Marx in the house. I know where my ideas stand, and they are not with a socialist. Capitalism FTW. You work hard, you should get payed for it. Lets just give more money to people on wellfare, they really earned it. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/226 "2008-11-03T07:42:29Z")
^^^ There are only 4 of us now on this forum that share this view. Scary huh? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/227 "2008-11-03T07:42:35Z")
Obama is giving away money from everyone and giving it to all the welfare people. :lol ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/228 "2008-11-03T07:47:18Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Source? > > The thread is the middle class over the last 8 years or so. Gas wasn’t $2.61 until the economy puked a month ago or so. > > It seems to be accelerated lately. No? > > LOL. heres your source. 1999 ny times predicting this very event. the government just needs to let the free market do its thing. it always works itself out. and quit bitching about the gas prices, supply and demand. deal with it. [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1) ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/229 "2008-11-03T08:11:08Z")
> [@hybrdthry911](#): > > heres your source. 1999 ny times predicting this very event. the government just needs to let the free market do its thing. it always works itself out. and quit bitching about the gas prices, supply and demand. deal with it. > > [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1) It wasn’t JUST done for minorities and people with low income. Plenty of people in Westchester (for example) are having the same problems. Yes, supply and demand but we’ve done nothing to get us away from foreign dependencies. Thanks for wasting my time. ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/230 "2008-11-03T08:34:18Z")
shawn is a heavyweight !!! i dont think its bad to be so involved , but i think its a waste of time arguing politics, you never win, u can force anyone to change how they think i do LOVE reading this thread tho, it reminds of me the movie DOOM with the dude running into the glass until he killed himself thats how my head would feel trying to talk politics, with bill o reily LOLLLLLLLLLLLL ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/231 "2008-11-03T08:37:52Z")
Redistribution of wealth?! HELL YES! Let’s take from the haves and give to the lazy. :excited [http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/31/news/economy/taxes\_welfare/index.htm?postversion=2008110308](http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/31/news/economy/taxes_welfare/index.htm?postversion=2008110308) > [@Singh](#): > > shawn is a heavyweight !!! > > i dont think its bad to be so involved , but i think its a waste of time arguing politics, you never win, u can force anyone to change how they think > > i do LOVE reading this thread tho, it reminds of me the movie DOOM > > with the dude running into the glass until he killed himself > > thats how my head would feel trying to talk politics, with bill o reily LOLLLLLLLLLLLL While discussing politics is a terrible experience for normal people, its absolutely necessary. It freaking sucks that half the country doesnt vote. It freaking sucks more that that half of the country has NO freaking clue what is going on. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/232 "2008-11-03T08:38:56Z")
I am not trying to make anyone vote for Obama. Re-read that. I don’t even like him. Two Party System FTL. I’ve stated my opinion with the other ticket though. Regardless, I doubt life will end for anyone regardless of who gets in. It can’t get much worse than now? But let’s be clear. We WILL be paying more tax. The money spent by GWB endless credit card needs to be paid. That money isn’t coming from Santa Clause. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/233 "2008-11-03T08:41:17Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > It can’t get much worse than now? You really think degrading capitalism is not “much worse than now”? We got it. You hate Bush. Noted. ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/234 "2008-11-03T08:41:40Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I am not trying to make anyone vote for Obama. Re-read that. I don’t even like him. Two Party System FTL. > > I’ve stated my opinion with the other ticket though. Regardless, I doubt life will end for anyone regardless of who gets in. It can’t get much worse than now? > > But let’s be clear. We WILL be paying more tax. The money spent by GWB endless credit card needs to be paid. **That money isn’t coming from Santa Clause.** :lmao ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/235 "2008-11-03T08:45:12Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > You really think degrading capitalism is not “much worse than now”? I think that we have some fundamental problems given the diversity of wealth. A lot of hard working people are getting fucked and the ignorant sheep are finally pissed. They think they have been fucked over the last decade. Guess what? They have. I don’t think “giving money welfare” is the right approach. I think increasing the tax of the wealthy isn’t a horrible thing. Higher %s have been done before. The infamous trickle down effect isn’t working. But, like I said, we all need to pay more tax to pay for the credit card bill. On the flip side, McCain self admitted that he doesn’t have strong economic knowledge? Is that the person YOU want in charge given how fragile things are? By the way, he lied about even saying that. Again, is that the person YOU want in charge given how fragile things are? ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/236 "2008-11-03T08:48:29Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > but… he didnt, so now what … so now were stuck with people like you ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/237 "2008-11-03T08:50:20Z")
> [@Murrdog9000](#): > > so now were stuck with people like you Not for long. I still cannot get over how righteous the GOPers are but losing to a black/socialist man with “ties” to antiAmerican, terrorists, and whatever smear I am missed or hasn’t happened yet. Also, losing in battle ground states? Hell, it is not crazy to think Obama can take Arizona. :lol ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/238 "2008-11-03T08:52:28Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I feel the same way about college students. No offense. Kinda? I do to… just because someone has a degree or anything doesn’t make them knowledgable, but I see so much bullshit in these threads that its really irritating. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/239 "2008-11-03T08:54:07Z")
oh man, im sure hoping i can live under the socialist rule of an ancestor of islamic radicals who is threatening the country so many have died to build to escape the ever growing socialist econmy that was taking its hold of europe. cant wait. :🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/240 "2008-11-03T09:00:14Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > oh man, im sure hoping i can live under the socialist rule of an ancestor of islamic radicals who is threatening the country so many have died to build to escape the ever growing socialist econmy that was taking its hold of europe. > > cant wait. :🙂 haha you mean how so many have died so that the rich can stay rich? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565.md?page=13)