# Voting for McCain = idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565 "2008-10-16T09:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/241 "2008-11-03T09:03:01Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > I think that we have some fundamental problems given the diversity of wealth. A lot of hard working people are getting fucked and the ignorant sheep are finally pissed. They think they have been fucked over the last decade. Guess what? They have. > > I don’t think “giving money welfare” is the right approach. I think increasing the tax of the wealthy isn’t a horrible thing. Higher %s have been done before. The infamous trickle down effect isn’t working. But, like I said, we all need to pay more tax to pay for the credit card bill. > > On the flip side, McCain self admitted that he doesn’t have strong economic knowledge? Is that the person YOU want in charge given how fragile things are? By the way, he lied about even saying that. Again, is that the person YOU want in charge given how fragile things are? :pete I’m out. I’m gonna puke. See you guys after the election. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/242 "2008-11-03T09:03:48Z")
> [@Murrdog9000](#): > > haha you mean how so many have died so that the rich can stay rich? its jealousy on the behalf of those who sat around waiting for handouts. ive had some friends die in iraq/afghanistan fighting so you can continue to go to college and try to learn something. i wish they would reactivate the draft. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/243 "2008-11-03T09:06:56Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > its jealousy on the behalf of those who sat around waiting for handouts. ive had some friends die in iraq/afghanistan fighting so you can continue to go to college and try to learn something. > > i wish they would reactivate the draft. yah… because staying in a war is the best way to keep us out of a depression, I would much rather have our troops safe than fighting… I would much rather try to work out the issues diplomatically instead of just dropping bombs ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/244 "2008-11-03T09:11:26Z")
> [@Murrdog9000](#): > > yah… because staying in a war is the best way to keep us out of a depression, I would much rather have our troops safe than fighting… I would much rather try to work out the issues diplomatically instead of just dropping bombs you would like, sure, we would all like, but look at it from a set of eyes that see the big picture. its not gonna happen. so work with it… you have to have the opposing nation be loyal to there own government in order to work things out diplomatically, i thought you would have known that. we worked things out with japan because the nations people are loyal followers to their emperor. in Iraq/Afghan they have no regards for what the governing body says, because its a nation in turmoil that has never had a steady government to follow… do you understand that or are you so ignorant and riding off shawns nuts with your head stuck in places they shouldnt be, which is causing you the inability to see that? ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/245 "2008-11-03T09:13:29Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > you would like, sure, we would all like, but look at it from a set of eyes that see the big picture. its not gonna happen. so work with it… you have to have the opposing nation be loyal to there own government in order to work things out diplomatically, i thought you would have known that. we worked things out with japan because the nations people are loyal followers to their emperor. in Iraq/Afghan they have no regards for what the governing body says, because its a nation in turmoil that has never had a steady government to follow… do you understand that or are you so ignorant and riding off shawns nuts with your head stuck in places they shouldnt be, which is causing you the inability to see that? First of all… I dont follow shawn at all and second, why should we even be in Iraq… could you please enlighten me? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/246 "2008-11-03T09:16:27Z")
> [@Murrdog9000](#): > > First of all… I dont follow shawn at all and second, why should we even be in Iraq… could you please enlighten me? first off , dont talk down to your elders. secondly. go there and see for yourself. im not going to justify anything to someone with no prior history or knowledge from the realworld on what goes on there. ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/247 "2008-11-03T09:21:22Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > first off , dont talk down to your elders. secondly. go there and see for yourself. im not going to justify anything to someone with no prior history or knowledge from the realworld on what goes on there. I dont know why you feel that just because your a few years older that your an expert on life…and you wont justify it because you can’t, I mean we almost found WMD’s. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/248 "2008-11-03T09:28:01Z")
GWB doesn’t even know why. The justification changed multiple times. ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/249 "2008-11-03T09:40:43Z")
If someone works full-time and put forth an honest effort, the United States Gov’t should give them a free house & car. If someone collects welfare, commits welfare fraud, and spends all their money on alcohol and popping out kids to get more money, the United States Gov’t should force them into slave labor. The money saved from free labor (see #2) will help aid my new plan (see #1) to help make this country more prosperous. ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/250 "2008-11-03T10:13:26Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > Redistribution of wealth?! HELL YES! Let’s take from the haves and give to the lazy. :excited > [http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/31/news/economy/taxes\_welfare/index.htm?postversion=2008110308](http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/31/news/economy/taxes_welfare/index.htm?postversion=2008110308) > > While discussing politics is a terrible experience for normal people, its absolutely necessary. It freaking sucks that half the country doesnt vote. It freaking sucks more that that half of the country has NO freaking clue what is going on. i have to agree with you, i dont vote, and i dont know nearly ANYTHING about politics dude… but what can I do, my brain is so fuckin packed with all this bullshit and im struggling to hold all the info i take in as it is, then we get into politics holly shit… politics remind me of school and college and that bores me… but I DO agree with you, im just not THAT guy to step into it now… the debates i mean btw, i dont know nothin about obama other than hes a SRT8-G i saw a video of some guy askin him about the skin heads tryin to kill him and obama handled that shit like a gangster LOL mad funny i loved it actually ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/251 "2008-11-03T15:20:40Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > ^^^ There are only 4 of us now on this forum that share this view. Scary huh? 1. ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/252 "2008-11-03T15:36:57Z")
Utterly disgusting that I am living smack dang in the middle of the perversion of America and the fact that the social movement is not only tolerated, but draws so much excitement! I remember the USSR / I can see how some more social EU governments work… and its actually sad to me, to think the Capitalism /Free market system that we have is falling into the predicted eveloutionary move to social democracy. We’re a republic here still. Capitalism FTW… Seriously. As far as the other BS partison shots, keep up your BS and agenda. Shawn, thats to you espically. I prefer Shawn like Regan preferred Gorby… ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/253 "2008-11-03T16:59:03Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > Utterly disgusting that I am living smack dang in the middle of the perversion of America and the fact that the social movement is not only tolerated, but draws so much excitement! I remember the USSR / I can see how some more social EU governments work… and its actually sad to me, to think the Capitalism /Free market system that we have is falling into the predicted eveloutionary move to social democracy. We’re a republic here still. Capitalism FTW… Seriously. > > As far as the other BS partison shots, keep up your BS and agenda. Shawn, thats to you espically. I prefer Shawn like Regan preferred Gorby… HOPE FOR CHANGE! ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/254 "2008-11-03T17:06:25Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > HOPE FOR CHANGE! LOL Vision. Obama is a man of vision. It’s just the wrong vision for America. If he is not a socialist, then the word has lost its meaning. Jesus is our hope to change hearts. The change Obama seeks is not a change of heart. It is the authority of the state that arbitrarily takes from some to give to others. It creates a dependent people devoid of pride who believe only the government can help them. Ronald Reagan was right when he said, “A government that gives you everything you want can take everything you have.” This is not the change we’ve been waiting for, nor the change that would be good for America. Yes, Jesus is my hope, but McCain has my vote. xxxxxx Had to post the pic below…which, in an of itself is a Joke… wow can we get an expierenced capable candidate please… ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/255 "2008-11-03T17:40:36Z")
> [@Murrdog9000](#): > > I dont know why you feel that just because your a few years older that your an expert on life…and you wont justify it because you can’t, I mean we almost found WMD’s. lets get a few things straight. 1 you dont know me, so dont assume you do and make comments directed towards me. i dont care who you think you are or, what you stand for but id suggest that you stop judging me. i never claimed to be an expert on anything, but as far as real world experience im sure ive got you beat. 2 do you really believe everything you hear or see on the new or in magazines and news articles? youd be amazed what REALLY happens. why dont you take a tour of Iraq or Afghanistan, like i said then make comments on what our purpose is, or what we are doing there, until then sit down and continue sucking on other liberals nutsucks. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/256 "2008-11-03T17:48:27Z")
Laugh. Palin is hope? Unreal. The GOP fucked up this country for 8 years. Let the socialist black man who chills with Bin Laden on the weekends have a shot at fixing it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/257 "2008-11-03T17:55:07Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Laugh. Palin is hope? Unreal. The GOP fucked up this country for 8 years. Let the socialist black man who chills with Bin Laden on the weekends have a shot at fixing it. 🙂 Im gonna just say it… Shawn, your just plain and simple STUPID. If you did not find a way to make it in the Bush years economically, then you will never ever find a way. If you think that going to war was the wrong thing to do, well, thats something we will never know… I do know there hasnt been an attack on our soil since. If you think the administration has the answers, then you dont understand the worlds dynamics and there is no pre-printed sucess or way to know what will develop. If you think Bush spent way too much and got us in debt…your right. If you think he made alot of mistakes , your right. If you think Kerry would have been better, i’d argue that… But to spew your bullshit just confirms what I hoped wasn’t true… 1. that your stupid :ohnoes (That I call it as i see it, i am more than just a name caller) 2. Your truely a commie bastard. 3. I’d still go have a drink with you… mostly because i find you entertaining, though woefully dangerous to the ideals most red blooded Americans adhere to. You want Change… I suggest you see MK30R,s post above, and see if you can eat at nice resturants with whatever change your left with at the end of the year. And don’t get mad at the Stupid comment. I like lots of stupid people. :nana ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/258 "2008-11-03T18:45:04Z")
More mud slinging. It’s hilarious to watch the right wingers scared to death of anyone that disagrees with their “righteousness”. Oh well. Like I said, GOP is done for at least 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/259 "2008-11-03T18:46:38Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > More mud slinging. It’s hilarious to watch the right wingers scared to death of anyone that disagrees with their “righteousness”. Oh well. Like I said, GOP is done for at least 4 years. ![http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa16/THP-YDS/Socialism1.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/1/411dbd903b0451d74a519caf31752aa8eba6a135.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/260 "2008-11-03T18:57:57Z")
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