# Voting for McCain = idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565 "2008-10-16T09:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/501 "2008-11-05T09:02:29Z")
> [@Wayne64SS](#): > > It’s not voting by association its reverse racism, its another way of saying it. > > ANY vote for color is therefore based on race and is therefor RACISM. No it’s not. Association is not racism. They are not voting for the black guy because they hate white people. They are voting for the black guy because he grew up the same way, went to the same school, has the same religious views. The sames goes for the rich guy that sees McCain. He might think McCain has his best interests vs some guy that grew up on food stamps. The racist person goes: I ain’t voting for the white guy because he is white. See the difference? Want me to use MS Paint to draw it out? ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/502 "2008-11-05T09:06:07Z")
did anyone see the results from black voters in Va? 91% of the black popular vote was for Obama. NINETY ONE. I highly doubt they were voting because of his ideals/beliefs. Obama’s about as black as sweater vests, yet they still probably only voted for him because he’s black, which is great and all, but I think the simple fact that it’s being praised as a great step forward in equal rights is making it a big deal simply because he’s black, which is racism in of itself amiritelol ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/503 "2008-11-05T09:08:11Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > did anyone see the results from black voters in Va? > > 91% of the black popular vote was for Obama. > > NINETY ONE. > > I highly doubt they were voting because of his ideals/beliefs. > > Obama’s about as black as sweater vests, yet they still probably only voted for him because he’s black, which is great and all, but I think the simple fact that it’s being praised as a great step forward in equal rights is making it a big deal simply because he’s black, which is racism in of itself amiritelol It goes on both sides of the coin champ. We’ve established that. A bit late due to the bong? 🙂 But, it IS interesting to note that McCain was dominate ONLY in the South. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/504 "2008-11-05T09:11:04Z")
I told myself I’d stay out of these threads. For good reason. Where’s my stimulus check/Financial Aid damn it. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/505 "2008-11-05T09:11:56Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > did anyone see the results from black voters in Va? > > 91% of the black popular vote was for Obama. > > NINETY ONE. > > I highly doubt they were voting because of his ideals/beliefs. You’re forgetting the point that they were his target voter. So his policies are appealing to the lower-middle class, which just happens to be minorities. If 91% of your target population votes for you or buys your product, thats good marketing. ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/506 "2008-11-05T09:12:42Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > Revolutionary! GranMassa for President! looks like I’ll be running against Jclark in 2012… epic! ---
**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/507 "2008-11-05T09:21:14Z")
> [@Wayne64SS](#): > > yea instead of “registering” for a party, cause thats just stupid. hell ya ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/508 "2008-11-05T09:40:09Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > You’re forgetting the point that they were his target voter. > > So his policies are appealing to the lower-middle class, which just happens to be minorities. > > If 91% of your target population votes for you or buys your product, thats good marketing. DING DING DING. Also, what about the new wave of voters for the last 3 years? A lot of variables but Beanie lumped em into “black”. :lol ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/509 "2008-11-05T09:44:13Z")
howard stern did his own survey for candidates, what he did is took all of McCain’s views, and called them obamas, then went down to harlem and telling people what “obamas” plan was and if they would vote for them, sadly all of the people he asked said yes they would, and all of them were black ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/510 "2008-11-05T09:44:52Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > howard stern did his own survey for candidates, what he did is took all of McCain’s views, and called them obamas, then went down to harlem and telling people what “obamas” plan was and if they would vote for them, sadly all of the people he asked said yes they would, and all of them were black Sounds like a good sample by Howard Stern. :lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/511 "2008-11-05T09:45:21Z")
There was a problem in America when 50% of the eligible voters didn’t vote. The majority of those 50% that didn’t were a… well minorities. The reason they didn’t want is because they knew that their vote wouldn’t matter, so there was no point. Now they had a representative who seemed to actually care for the lower/middle class and they came out. At the end of the day when the small percent of wealthy is doing good, while the lower/middle keeps getting screwed and they are the majority things will turn around. Democracy is a pain in the dick isn’t it? :tong ---
**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/512 "2008-11-05T09:47:31Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > The majority of those 50% that didn’t were a… well minorities. peanut butters? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/513 "2008-11-05T09:48:44Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > howard stern did his own survey for candidates, what he did is took all of McCain’s views, and called them obamas, then went down to harlem and telling people what “obamas” plan was and if they would vote for them, sadly all of the people he asked said yes they would, and all of them were black Unfortunately the test is biased because there was no control or white voters weren’t tested for Obama’s policies under McCains name. I’m sure results would be similar. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/514 "2008-11-05T09:49:34Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > Sounds like a good sample by Howard Stern. :lol i think hes the only face on tv or where ever that would actually have the balls to do a test like that, its funny how that is though, black people see a symbol, not a president, sad but true ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/515 "2008-11-05T09:50:26Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > Unfortunately the test is biased because there was no control or white voters weren’t tested for Obama’s policies under McCains name. > > I’m sure results would be similar. but the fact that blacks were voted in record numbers has to tell you something, that those white people that vote for mccain were always going to vote, i dont think you can say that for the black community ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/516 "2008-11-05T09:54:48Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > i think hes the only face on tv or where ever that would actually have the balls to do a test like that, its funny how that is though, black people see a symbol, not a president, sad but true Yes but the “test” cannot be taken seriously. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/517 "2008-11-05T09:56:11Z")
so you think its that there is no truth to the fact that black people vote for obama simply because he’s black? and the fact that most of these people never voted before in there lives? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/518 "2008-11-05T09:57:13Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > but the fact that blacks were voted in record numbers has to tell you something, that those white people that vote for mccain were always going to vote, i dont think you can say that for the black community Read the post above, they didn’t vote because it wasn’t going to matter. It’s called motivation and potential benefit, and that’s what either forces you to go vote or stay at home. A vast majority of white Southerners vote for McCain just because he is **not** black, which is just as bad as voting for somebody just because he is. Here is the problem, it’s visible in this thread. There is very little discussion of the policies and a lot of judgment on the whether the president will be good or not based on his character and persona. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/519 "2008-11-05T10:06:45Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > Read the post above, they didn’t vote because it wasn’t going to matter. It’s called motivation and potential benefit, and that’s what either forces you to go vote or stay at home. > > **A vast majority of white Southerners vote for McCain just because he is not** black, which is just as bad as voting for somebody just because he is. > > Here is the problem, it’s visible in this thread. > > There is very little discussion of the policies and a lot of judgment on the whether the president will be good or not based on his character and persona. Thank You now we just have to explain this to Shawn. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/520 "2008-11-05T10:09:01Z")
> [@Vovchandr](#): > > Read the post above, they didn’t vote because it wasn’t going to matter. It’s called motivation and potential benefit, and that’s what either forces you to go vote or stay at home. > > A vast majority of white Southerners vote for McCain just because he is **not** black, which is just as bad as voting for somebody just because he is. > > Here is the problem, it’s visible in this thread. > > There is very little discussion of the policies and a lot of judgment on the whether the president will be good or not based on his character and persona. im not judging whether the president is good or not because i simply dont know, it takes a lot more than the president to get things move for america so this idea that one man can change america is wrong, but a lot of people think that way, especially black people, they feel that they are going to get something out of having a black president so they vote, i dont think white people say well we will benefit from having a white presdient because we have always had a white president. What people dont realize, white or black, is that there wont be a whole lot of change like obama promotes, it’ll be the same old shit, and if the economy bounces back im sure it wasnt obama that did it for us, its us, the people [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565.md?page=27)