# Voting for McCain = idiot

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**Created:** [October 16, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565 "2008-10-16T09:38:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/721 "2008-11-19T05:50:47Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> ;D Too easy.

I think Jammer was talking about your ass. :ahh

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/722 "2008-11-19T05:51:20Z")

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Also too easy.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/723 "2008-11-19T06:16:52Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> Also too easy.

:ohnoes

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**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/724 "2008-11-19T09:08:25Z")

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:banana

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**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/725 "2008-11-19T15:43:16Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> Looks like Ryan is screwed.

Socialist?

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/726 "2008-11-19T16:06:05Z")

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> [@silverandslow](#):
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> Socialist?

The ironic thing is that you are calling me a socialist given I work 60-80 hours per week and pay tremendous amount of taxes while you live off your parents. What seperates you from a person recieving welfare? :nuts

To make it even more fucking funny, I pay for people to receive welfare. See the connection here at all? :lol

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/727 "2008-11-19T16:27:34Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> The ironic thing is that you are calling me a socialist given I work 60-80 hours per week and pay tremendous amount of taxes while you live off your parents. What seperates you from a person recieving welfare? :nuts
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> To make it even more fucking funny, I pay for people to receive welfare. See the connection here at all? :lol

dude its the right thing to do, sharing is caring my friend

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/728 "2008-11-19T16:28:04Z")

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CHANGE!!!

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/729 "2008-11-19T16:30:20Z")

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> [@Singh](#):
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> dude its the right thing to do, sharing is caring my friend

I understand that welfare is a necessity in life but it needs 100% reform. Let’s be clear on my position on that.

I work very very hard for my money and don’t like undeserving people receiving it. I realize some people NEED help. However, the real funny thing is the fucking freeloader didn’t vote what he claims a “Socialist Obama” and then recieves handouts his entire life. And, then has the balls to criticize a heavily taxed citizen? That’s funny.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/730 "2008-11-19T16:31:23Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> I understand that welfare is a necessity in life but it needs 100% reform. Let’s be clear on my position on that.
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> I work very very hard for my money and don’t like undeserving people receiving it. I realize some people NEED help. However, the real funny thing is the fucking freeloader didn’t vote what he claims a “Socialist Obama” and then recieves handouts his entire life. And, then has the balls to criticize a heavily taxed citizen? That’s funny.

lol i hear ya i was actually being highly sarcastic

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/731 "2008-11-19T16:32:02Z")

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> [@Singh](#):
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> lol i hear ya i was actually being highly sarcastic

Yes, I know but it allowed me to re-iterate he is a freeloader. That’s like the woman with 5 babies down at the welfare line slapping me when I just gave up 40% of my check. :nuts

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/732 "2008-11-19T16:35:49Z")

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Screw helping those people with free taxpayer money, I don’t care what the situation is. You write them a loan. You can even back it with gov money but no free lunch. Take care of your own shit.

I don’t see people jumping at the chance to give me money, why should anyone else get it for free?

;D Enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/733 "2008-11-19T16:37:58Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> Screw helping those people with free taxpayer money, I don’t care what the situation is. You write them a loan. You can even back it with gov money but no free lunch. Take care of your own shit.
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> I don’t see people jumping at the chance to give me money, why should anyone else get it for free?
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> ;D Enjoy.

I agree. Welfare doesn’t necessarily mean they get free monies. There are plenty of jobs somewhere hat we can give them for a period of time until they find something on their own or maybe they continue with that job. Regardless, I still think that welfare or help in some form is necessary. Not exactly sure what the real answer but it’s not what we have now.

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**Author:** ![Allstar\_Graphics](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/allstar_graphics/32/6287_2.png) [@Allstar\_Graphics](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Allstar_Graphics)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/734 "2008-11-19T16:38:50Z")

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If anything, working my ass off gets me about as far as the damn welfare freeloaders, the only differince is i know i earned it and im not a scumbag.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/735 "2008-11-19T16:41:14Z")

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> [@Allstar Graphics](#):
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> If anything, working my ass off gets me about as far as the damn welfare freeloaders, the only differince is i know i earned it and im not a scumbag.

word

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/736 "2008-11-19T16:42:03Z")

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> [@Allstar Graphics](#):
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> If anything, working my ass off gets me about as far as the damn welfare freeloaders, the only differince is i know i earned it and im not a scumbag.

Can you agree that there are plenty of people on welfare that NEED the help? Not all welfare people are “freeloaders”. I totally agree that it’s abused and many are scumbag/freeloaders/etc… I am just trying to get an idea if people think it’s a necessary thing.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/737 "2008-11-19T17:10:52Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> I agree. Welfare doesn’t necessarily mean they get free monies.

Actually, in its current form, yes, yes it does.

> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> Can you agree that there are plenty of people on welfare that NEED the help? Not all welfare people are “freeloaders”. I totally agree that it’s abused and many are scumbag/freeloaders/etc… I am just trying to get an idea if people think it’s a necessary thing.

I “need” a 911 Turbo but dont expect you to buy it for me.

Give them a loan for whatever they need. Dont keep giving them a handout for years and years and years.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/738 "2008-11-19T19:09:15Z")

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> [@JClark](#):
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> Actually, in its current form, yes, yes it does.

I was referring to the future revisions.

> [@JClark](#):
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> I “need” a 911 Turbo but dont expect you to buy it for me.
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> Give them a loan for whatever they need. Dont keep giving them a handout for years and years and years.

You don’t NEED that but you understand my point.

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**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/739 "2008-11-19T19:15:17Z")

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See yet again shawn you have no idea what your talking about OR you comehow misunderstood what Obama has for plans.

Everything your explaining is against what Obama is talking about doing.

I’m not saying your a socialist, I’m saying you voted for one. There is total diff. between parents willingly giving their kids money and forcing people to pay for other peoples kids. Again, let me say again, you have zero, zero? ZERO clue about my finances to make any assumptions and you have been wrong for years and just keep spitting the same bullshit.(mr have no idea why people voted except by assumption)

The funniest part about your whole lecture is that you just said welfare is needed for those who NEED help yet Obama is giving it to more than that(since hes expanding aid to MORE people and there are many people who don’t deserve it now.) You like your hard earned money and complain about tax rate yet you don’t mind paying more for that vary reason? Weird. Its almost hipocritical.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voting-for-mccain-idiot/239565/740 "2008-11-19T19:37:09Z")

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> [@silverandslow](#):
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> See yet again shawn you have no idea what your talking about OR you comehow misunderstood what Obama has for plans.

I am not sure what comehow means but I am not interested.

> [@silverandslow](#):
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> Also, what exactly didn’t I understand? :lol:  
> Everything your explaining is against what Obama is talking about doing.

And your point is? It is like you are always two steps behind everything in life. How difficult is it to understand that 99.9% of the voters don’t agree with every single policy/ideal/etc… with their candidate? Do you need flash cards? It’s not difficult and I’ve said it many times. But, I’ll say it again: I am not Republican. I am not Democrat. I hate party-centric people. I have views that swing to both sides of the cards.

> [@silverandslow](#):
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> I’m not saying your a socialist, I’m saying you voted for one. There is total diff. between parents willingly giving their kids money and forcing people to pay for other peoples kids.

A handout is a handout. Also, let’s be clear. This isn’t about you wanting a couple bucks to go to the video arcade. How many friggin cars did you get gifted to you? Sorry, you are the equiv of a rich welfare case. :lol: Do you realize how funny this is? Your the big Republican fanboi and Obama is the evil socialist yet you got your pockets lined for YEARS by your parents. :lol: That’s funny now matter how you look at it.

Also, my vote is my vote. I have my reasons for making my vote just like everyone else. Saying I am a socialist or have socialist views is as ignorant as saying a McCain vote is based because someone is pro-War or a Vet or a POW. Truth be told, everyone has their own opinions/views and no candidate is going to match 100%. In the two-party system, you are often left with a vote you really don’t want but have no other choice.

> [@silverandslow](#):
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> Again, let me say again, you have zero, zero? ZERO clue about my finances to make any assumptions and you have been wrong for years and just keep spitting the same bullshit.(mr have no idea why people voted except by assumption)

I do? Who purchased the MR2 off ebay? Where did the Jeep come from? Where did the Audi come from? Did you hit the lottery years ago? Do you have some sort of $50K a year allowance? Give me a break.

> [@silverandslow](#):
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> The funniest part about your whole lecture is that you just said welfare is needed for those who NEED help yet Obama is giving it to more than that(since hes expanding aid to MORE people and there are many people who don’t deserve it now.)

I fail to see the funny? It might have some merit if I agreed with any/all of these Obama decisions.

> [@silverandslow](#):
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> You like your hard earned money and complain about tax rate yet you don’t mind paying more for that vary reason? Weird. Its almost hipocritical.

he taxes in NY are ridiculous especially in NYC. I understand anyone being upset with that.

But, I don’t understand where I said I don’t mind paying more?

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