# VW H8Rs Unite **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 9, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475 "2007-11-09T12:37:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/101 "2008-08-27T20:35:32Z")
all i know is i would be [smafer]FUCKING HEATED BRO[/SMAFER] if i paid 10k for a car and i was driving along and the window just up and fell into the door. srsly, i would be pissed. and that shit happens ALL THE TIME to mk4’s a girl i work with bought a mk4 2.0 and that happened. she got all of them replaced under warrenty, but someone broke into her car while she was on chippaworst and the shop replacing the glass used the old clips, and her window fell into her door a few weeks after it was replaced. autohaus refuses to do warrenty work on a car 2x, so she is fucked. not cool for a poor college kid who needs reliable transportation. also, cel’s for retarded shit you can never figure out, the fit and finish of most 2.0’s feel as bad as a honda, interiors of mk4’s smell liek crayons and i cant fucking handle it, coil packs, wheelbearing, e brake cable locking in place when its cold, door handle locks freazing when its cold and fucking locking you out of your car anytime its under 25\*out, ect… although, my mk3 never left me stranded once. as abused and ill-kept that car was, not once did it leave me stranded somewhere. but i can also say the same thing for both of my hondas i have owned. ---
**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/102 "2008-08-27T21:44:07Z")
my mkiv tdi jetta doesnt give me any problems at all, but then again i am not making it anything more than a daily driver and i got used to the crayon smell after a few days ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/103 "2008-08-27T21:44:56Z")
but does it smell like crayons ---
**Author:** ![bigwoode](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigwoode/32/5175_2.png) [@bigwoode](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bigwoode)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/104 "2008-08-27T21:51:03Z")
YES, its some crazy thing with the leather interior… i am used to it so it doesnt bother me, plus its super clean ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/105 "2008-08-27T21:55:06Z")
no its not, its the adhesive they use to bond parts of the interior together. it smells like crayons and i cant fucking handle it. the smell is even worse in cloth interior’d cars ---
**Author:** ![Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jared/32/4976_2.png) [@Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jared)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/106 "2008-08-27T22:19:40Z")
gayest post everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:hang: ---
**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/107 "2008-08-27T23:22:15Z")
Let’s evaluate some things in this thread. It seems that most of the VW hate stems from MK4s. MK4s were IMO the worst Golfs/Jettas of all time. They had all of the issues previously mentioned. One of the things that really upsets me about MK4s is the “high quality” interior that MK4 owners all seem to love. They used really soft materials on the parts that you touch frequently, so when they were new, they felt very expensive and nice. As they get slightly old, the soft stuff peels off and looks terrible. Engine choices were odd too. 2.0 gas was a complete waste. It got lousy fuel economy for the power it had. Typically 1.8Ts got better economy and had much more power. Why bother with this boat anchor? 1.8T, these had their issues, but were easy to bump power up a noticeable amount. They had issues, but if they were maintained and not heavily modded, they held up pretty well. VR6 was a neat choice. They got bad fuel economy around town, but did fairly well on the highway. There were 2 different versions, 12V and 24V. Personally, I’d go 24v if I wanted a gas MK4 TDI, hands down the best choice. no pesky coilpacks to go wrong, 45-50 MPG and easy to bump power a decent amount without spending a lot of money. Completely worth the extra cost. Going back to what I orignallly said, the MK4 is why VW has such a black eye. Personally, I think MK1s and 2s were the best VW ever offered. MK3 was the begining of the downfall. ---
**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/108 "2008-08-27T23:25:59Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > no its not, its the adhesive they use to bond parts of the interior together. it smells like crayons and i cant fucking handle it. the smell is even worse in cloth interior’d cars I think you were in mine a few times, it NEVER smelled of crayons. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/109 "2008-08-28T00:10:48Z")
Hate all you want, this will probably still be my “soon to be” next DD ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/x_iliohan/001__scaled_600.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/x_iliohan/001__scaled_600.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/x_iliohan/011__scaled_600.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/x_iliohan/011__scaled_600.jpg) It goes on sale next month. X… ---
**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/110 "2008-08-28T00:20:54Z")
Is that the new passat? ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/111 "2008-08-28T05:26:35Z")
> [@cky89](#): > > Is that the new passat? CC It says it right on the pictures. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/112 "2008-08-28T05:29:52Z")
Looks like they ripped off Mercedes ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/113 "2008-08-28T05:38:17Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Looks like the ripped off Mercedes Agreed. ![http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll234/reese1285/Mercedes-Benz-CLS_63_AMG_2007_1600x.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/8/a8fe152b81e2ba17d107e8492da8eefcf4cf2ef9.jpeg) ![http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll234/reese1285/CF016485lr.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/7/f77bce7cbc4839054f6d77d45b994ce36c0f695b.jpeg) But, I’m okay with that for a price starting around $27k. Of course, the CC pictured is the special edition “GOld Coast” and will be more $$$. Xander, I thought these were DSG only? How are you going to cope with that? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/114 "2008-08-28T05:40:36Z")
maybe it’s just the color, but it looks like a buick fucked a chrysler and that VW was the offspring ---
**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/115 "2008-08-28T05:55:41Z")
> [@cky89](#): > > Is that the new passat? ANd please don’t buy it… ---
**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/116 "2008-08-28T05:57:11Z")
> [@double j](#): > > Engine choices were odd too. > 2.0 gas was a complete waste. It got lousy fuel economy for the power it had. Typically 1.8Ts got better economy and had much more power. Why bother with this boat anchor? > > . really I’ll take my $45 to fill and 420 to a tank out of my 2.0. Sounds what most people get out of the 1.8T and have to run at least middle grade. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/117 "2008-08-28T07:57:28Z")
> [@Jagermeister](#): > > Xander, I thought these were DSG only? How are you going to cope with that? The base model is 2.0T with a six speed. I’ll just buy some coils and wheels for it and perhaps the extra body pieces. X… ---
**Author:** ![double\_j](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/double_j/32/7380_2.png) [@double\_j](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/double_j)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/118 "2008-08-28T23:12:06Z")
> [@dubbin91](#): > > really I’ll take my $45 to fill and 420 to a tank out of my 2.0. Sounds what most people get out of the 1.8T and have to run at least middle grade. OK, so 89 is like $0.10 more a gallon, which equals about $1.50 a tank more to fill up. Is the $1.50 a tank worth the extra 65-100HP? (depending on tune) God the 2.0 is worthless. ---
**Author:** ![Jared](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jared/32/4976_2.png) [@Jared](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jared)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475/119 "2008-08-29T00:04:23Z")
I love how ever one is fighting over front wheel drive cars, …guess its just me … ![http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/Jrodthepolock/2bb25f96.gif?t=1219993416](http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/Jrodthepolock/2bb25f96.gif?t=1219993416)FWD [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/vw-h8rs-unite/38475.md?page=5)