# walbaro 190 vs 255
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [September 29, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217 "2003-09-29T23:39:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@BETRAYED93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BETRAYED93)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/1 "2003-09-29T23:39:33Z")
im going to have a slightly bigger turbo then factory… so this time im going to upgrade fuel pumps in my turbo six…
my question is
is the 255 worth it for me? im not to keen on the fuel pump sizes but i read threw a couple places saying the 255 can cause flooding @ the injector’s… some say it happens others don t.
is there a big difference between the 190 and 255?
my turbo’s just a tad bigger then stock so i can t see a big reason to go for the 255… but anyone with experience please let me know!
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### Author:  [@Craig\_King](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Craig_King)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/2 "2003-09-30T05:59:54Z")
I’ve always thought … always better to have too much, then not enough fuel.
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### Author:  [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/3 "2003-09-30T07:50:24Z")
255’s are loud
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### Author:  [@rusty240det](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rusty240det)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/4 "2003-09-30T07:52:03Z")
i have never seen a problem with the 255 flooding the injectors
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### Author:  [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/5 "2003-09-30T08:02:33Z")
> _Originally posted by BlkP42E_
> **255’s are loud**
it depends on how much sound deadening you have.
On darkstarts dsm yes the walbro was very loud and sounded like those 17 year cicadas we had a year or two ago but in my buddy’s wrx you didn’t even hear the 255 in his.
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### Author:  [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/6 "2003-09-30T08:14:15Z")
> _Originally posted by taco_
> **it depends on how much sound deadening you have.**
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> **On darkstarts dsm yes the walbro was very loud and sounded like those 17 year cicadas we had a year or two ago but in my buddy’s wrx you didn’t even hear the 255 in his.**
actually it just depends on how much of a bitch u are.either u can suck it up and simply ignore the noise or be a fucking pussy and complain about it…
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### Author:  [@SP71Supra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SP71Supra)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/7 "2003-09-30T08:28:26Z")
id say get the 255… i have twin 331’s (I believe thats the size) im my supra… the 255 should do you good
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### Author:  [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/8 "2003-09-30T08:34:42Z")
the 255 is good to over 500whp…here is a dyno sheet that shows the limitations of the pump with the FP3055 turbo
[http://www.forcedperformance.net/images/dyno/fp3055.gif](http://www.forcedperformance.net/images/dyno/fp3055.gif)
on a dsm of course
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### Author:  [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/9 "2003-09-30T12:41:09Z")
ive had 255’s in every car ive had… no flooding problems…
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### Author:  [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/10 "2003-09-30T13:24:15Z")
255 is a great pump. you are prolly thinking about the high pressure 255 and flooding with out an adjustable fp reg. or maybe not.i have the hp in the ty and its good to 80 psi . got it from ron gregory.
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### Author:  [@BETRAYED93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BETRAYED93)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/11 "2003-09-30T13:39:11Z")
i was reading somewhere that the 190’s good up to 300 hp
my motors all tq… meaning when upgraded everybody’s dyno’s are always 300 tq and say 200-240 whp
on your basic 1st gen turbo motor with bolt on’s… theres one 1st gen that broke 300 with n20 and boost… with 400 tq… 50 shot and tbird upgrade stock injectors
i just plan on keeping my motor in the area of 220-240 whp… then 300 tq…
so im probally good with the 190…
im not trying to make a crazy race car… just something in the 13.0-13.5 range
since where talking about fuel anybody have any idea what 330cc injectors are good for hp?
maybe ill just get the 255… ill dig up some graphs that show flow patterns…
if the motor ever blows ill build the fe3 which that black pgt i always post pics of has… there built like dsm’s
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### Author:  [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/12 "2003-09-30T13:55:47Z")
> _Originally posted by BETRAYED93_
> **i was reading somewhere that the 190’s good up to 300 hp**
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> my motors all tq… meaning when upgraded everybody’s dyno’s are always 300 tq and say 200-240 whp
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> on your basic 1st gen turbo motor with bolt on’s… theres one 1st gen that broke 300 with n20 and boost… with 400 tq… 50 shot and tbird upgrade stock injectors
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> i just plan on keeping my motor in the area of 220-240 whp… then 300 tq…
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> so im probally good with the 190…
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> im not trying to make a crazy race car… just something in the 13.0-13.5 range
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> since where talking about fuel anybody have any idea what 330cc injectors are good for hp?
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> **maybe ill just get the 255… ill dig up some graphs that show flow patterns…
> if the motor ever blows ill build the fe3 which that black pgt i always post pics of has… there built like dsm’s**
the price difference between the 2 is so minimal i wouldnt even consider getting the 190…
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### Author:  [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/13 "2003-09-30T14:15:23Z")
330cc injectors are probably good for about 220-240hp
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### Author:  [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/14 "2003-09-30T15:28:50Z")
> _Originally posted by brokeasskorean_
> **330cc injectors are probably good for about 220-240hp**
i’d say a tad bit higher than that… i have 310s and people see 230+hp on them… :dunno:
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### Author:  [@brokeasskorean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brokeasskorean)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/15 "2003-09-30T17:09:41Z")
> _Originally posted by turbovw18_
> **i’d say a tad bit higher than that… i have 310s and people see 230+hp on them… :dunno:**
at what duty cycle?
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### Author:  [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/16 "2003-09-30T17:18:28Z")
310s will get me above 300hp on my setup
i have a 255 pump and i can flood my injectors if rail pressure is past ~65psi. seems to like 50-55psi best on my car
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### Author:  [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/17 "2003-09-30T21:31:49Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_
> **310s will get me above 300hp on my setup**
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> **i have a 255 pump and i can flood my injectors if rail pressure is past ~65psi. seems to like 50-55psi best on my car**
dont forget, you have 6 injectors… not 4, like dougy fresh has on his mx6.
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### Author:  [@thefranchise](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thefranchise)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/18 "2003-09-30T22:17:50Z")
> _Originally posted by 1320_
> **dont forget, you have 6 injectors… not 4, like dougy fresh has on his mx6.**
yup yup forgot that KEY fact
i was thinking about the 10 million probes he owned 😃
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### Author:  [@BETRAYED93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BETRAYED93)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/walbaro-190-vs-255/162217/19 "2003-09-30T22:55:11Z")
> _Originally posted by thefranchise_
> **yup yup forgot that KEY fact**
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> **i was thinking about the 10 million probes he owned 😃**
😃