# Waste of time and $.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [October 28, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253 "2008-10-28T21:14:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/61 "2008-10-29T17:47:36Z")

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blah blah blah

Cheif Wahoo \> \*

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**Author:** ![38stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/38stang/32/7479_2.png) [@38stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/38stang)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/62 "2008-10-29T18:05:16Z")

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> [@jt76](#):
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> HAHAHAHAHA you serious? I would mop the floor with that thing with my old car… that you wanted to swap for your red formula :gotme: … water under the bridge though, i knew its limitations and sold it, bought an LS1 and now i have an **11 sec car with a cam and exhaust and a lil shot of juice:)**. Im not going to defend an inferior machine like my old 2v mustang GT or an LT1 F body.

fixed :eekdance:

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**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/63 "2008-10-29T18:15:57Z")

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> [@turbo ls1 ss](#):
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> :picard: \<—this whole thread

:banghead:

LT1’s are shitty lets move on. I would rather have a TPI or old school SBC

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**Author:** ![38stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/38stang/32/7479_2.png) [@38stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/38stang)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/64 "2008-10-29T18:21:26Z")

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its all a matter of technology  
TPI\<LT1\<LS1\<LS6\<LS2\<LS3\<LS7…this argument is an ever changing one that will always change once the new generation of motor comes out. All of these motors had their hey-day when the were the new hot shit on the street, but technology evolves, better designs are made and newer more powerful motors are made…

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/65 "2008-10-29T18:22:26Z")

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\<LS9

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/66 "2008-10-29T18:25:34Z")

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> [@joelster](#):
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> Why do you have to drag me into this?
> 
> High 11’s are crap huh? I’m sure an 11.72 would put me into some nice company here on nyspeed. That was well over a year ago, my cars a little quicker now 😉 .How many LS1 cars on here run 11’s? Not **capable** of, I mean **HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IT**? Oh, and how many are N/A that have done it? Are there any on here? I can think of cougarspeed, and studderin, any more? You were .1-.2 **OFF OF MY 1/8th mile times**. You were a half second off of my 1/4 mile times (which is about 10 car lengths 😉 , or 2 buses, take your pick). Your car was all about the first 300-400 feet, then it fell flat on its face and everyone that you out-60 footed started gaining fast. I’ll give you this, your car got every ounce of its power down to the ground, no doubt. But your 110mph trap, showed the true power of your car. No way it was going to run an 11, even though you tried a zillion times. You always discount your car when you talk about it, like it’s some ordinary plain jane LS1 with a few bolt-ons, when actually it is a gutted 3000lb, well set up car, with a big stall. Then you talk about my car like it’s some hairy all out drag car or something. I put a “built auto” (as you put it) in it, because I broke 2 4L’s. It doesn’t make my car any faster, it is simply stronger. I put a spooled rear in it, because spools are stronger than posi’s and I rarely drive the car. How much ET reduction do you think a car will get with “slicks/skinnies”? Um…not much. Maybe .05, maybe .10 if it had some extremely heavy wheels on it.
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> Then you always chime in on everyone’s LS1 thread when these guys all go to the track. None of these guys ,jt76, 9c1ny, psychopjv, etc… have there cars set up for the track like you did. Then you bust out your famous, my bolt-on car ran, blah, blah, blah, when they post up their 12 second slips. Put any one of their motors in your car and it would certainly hit that elusive 11 that you never did. Or put your motor into one of their M6 cars, and watch you struggle to hit a 12.99.
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> You don’t even own the car anymore so why do you always feel the need to post up about it?

:bigclap: thank you

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**Author:** ![speedped79](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedped79/32/7491_2.png) [@speedped79](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedped79)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/67 "2008-10-29T18:34:53Z")

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can you guys quit shitting up his thread already? this thread is supposed to be about his car which he got for a steal, and what he plans on doing with it.  
fyi im envious, i was going to buy this car if it was around in march

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/68 "2008-10-29T18:36:06Z")

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how much did u buy this car for?

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**Author:** ![bamfer9duce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@bamfer9duce](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bamfer9duce)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/69 "2008-10-29T18:36:48Z")

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> [@speedped79](#):
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> can you guys quit shitting up his thread already? this thread is supposed to be about his car which he got for a steal, and what he plans on doing with it.  
> fyi im envious, i was going to buy this car if it was around in march

I might actually have to agree with teh speedpez on this one. Although what do you consider a steal for that car?

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**Author:** ![speedped79](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedped79/32/7491_2.png) [@speedped79](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedped79)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/70 "2008-10-29T18:38:36Z")

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> [@bamfer9duce](#):
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> I might actually have to agree with teh speedpez on this one. Although what do you consider a steal for that car?

well he got it pretty cheap, mabe not a steal but at least a deal, k. back on topic

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**Author:** ![speedped79](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedped79/32/7491_2.png) [@speedped79](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedped79)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/71 "2008-10-29T18:40:43Z")

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[http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56498](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56498) he was asking 4200 which is a decent deal

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/72 "2008-10-29T18:54:47Z")

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> [@38stang](#):
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> fixed :eekdance:

:bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:

Congrats you have only said this 15000 times and this is why i KNEW i would catch shit for using spray this year. OMG i didnt hit an 11.99 with my cam only LS1… i hit a 12.02 with 117- 118 trap speeds and 2.0 60 foots with a MASSIVE vaccum leak. But no, its not an 11 sec car.

Why is it the people that are slower than me with more mods that feel the need to comment? :mamoru:

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/73 "2008-10-29T19:09:51Z")

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![http://content7.flixster.com/question/53/75/74/5375745_std.jpg](http://content7.flixster.com/question/53/75/74/5375745_std.jpg)

IM SCREAMING FOR NO REASON I HAVE NO IDEA WHATS GOING ON!@&^@!&\*@!

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**Author:** ![38stang](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/38stang/32/7479_2.png) [@38stang](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/38stang)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/74 "2008-10-29T19:17:40Z")

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> [@jt76](#):
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> :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:
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> Congrats you have only said this 15000 times and this is why i KNEW i would catch shit for using spray this year. OMG i didnt hit an 11.99 with my cam only LS1… i hit a 12.02 with 117- 118 trap speeds and 2.0 60 foots with a MASSIVE vaccum leak. But no, its not an 11 sec car.
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> Why is it the people that are slower than me with more mods that feel the need to comment? :mamoru:

just to get a rise out of u…bec winter is boring

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**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/75 "2008-10-29T19:45:12Z")

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joelster is right , my car has like 0 suspension mods that are drag friendly, its lowered and has big heavy 17x9 rims on it and 3.23 gears

I am going to address my suspension situation and get the bitch to cut 1.5 60’s

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**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/76 "2008-10-29T19:51:10Z")

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> [@Pauly](#):
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> I’d argue with that

i was being sarcastic against the LS1 only guys that know nothing.

Bottom line, its all in the cyl heads. thats the LS1’s strong point. cyl heads. that and light weight. nothing else is that special compared to a SBC/LT1. bolt a good set of heads on a LT1, a cam and youll make just as much power as a LS1.

plus heads are cheaper than swapping in a different motor/harness/etc.

Brian

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/77 "2008-10-29T19:54:26Z")

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iron \> aluminum (i suck at math, i meant iron is better than aluminum. whatever the sign may be)

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/78 "2008-10-29T19:55:43Z")

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> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> i was being sarcastic against the LS1 only guys that know nothing.
> 
> Bottom line, its all in the cyl heads. thats the LS1’s strong point. cyl heads. that and light weight. nothing else is that special compared to a SBC/LT1. bolt a good set of heads on a LT1, a cam and youll make just as much power as a LS1.
> 
> plus heads are cheaper than swapping in a different motor/harness/etc.
> 
> Brian

the ls1 guys are always going to say “yeah but you gotta mod the lt1 in order to just get within a stock ls1” its a never ending argument that people will never win

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**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/79 "2008-10-29T19:56:00Z")

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> [@95LS1t](#):
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> iron \> aluminum (i suck at math, i meant iron is better than aluminum. whatever the sign may be)

lol. and what is your support for this statement. not even ls1 related, just in general. this coming from an ls1 guy with an iron block

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**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/waste-of-time-and/57253/80 "2008-10-29T19:56:54Z")

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> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> i was being sarcastic against the LS1 only guys that know nothing.
> 
> Bottom line, its all in the cyl heads. thats the LS1’s strong point. cyl heads. that and light weight. nothing else is that special compared to a SBC/LT1. bolt a good set of heads on a LT1, a cam and youll make just as much power as a LS1.
> 
> plus heads are cheaper than swapping in a different motor/harness/etc.
> 
> Brian

ummmm… no? The LS1 is completely different than past sbc motors.

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