# Watch how real shit gets the next few years (China hacking everyone) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 9, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108 "2012-11-09T11:53:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/161 "2020-12-15T14:55:10Z")
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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/162 "2020-12-15T17:27:10Z")
> **[BREAKING REPORT: SolarWinds HQ Raided in Austin -- More News Coming on CEO...](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-fbi-texas-rangers-us-marshals-raid-solarwinds-hq-austin/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons)** > > Last night the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) issued a rare Emergency Directive 21-01, in response to a KNOWN COMPROMISE involving SolarWinds Orion products. This was only the fifth Emergency Directive issued by CISA under... but again, who knows what is true and what isnt anymore. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/163 "2020-12-15T17:54:53Z")
This doesn’t sound like insider trading or anything. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/8/e8888f036c2117dccf3ca97c9e7ddd0686cc5471.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/164 "2020-12-15T18:07:14Z")
So wait a minute… Solarwinds software is used by Dominion? Trying not to get sucked into some crazy conspiracy rabbit hole… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/165 "2020-12-15T18:15:49Z")
Yea but only the Orion software got popped don’t think Serv-U had issues ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/166 "2020-12-15T20:09:45Z")
@JayS you dont want to join me at the bottom of this rabbit hole? i certainly do not recommend it unless you have a lot of other hyper-positive things going on to counter-balance the mind-fuck that ensues. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/167 "2020-12-15T20:28:28Z")
You guys are wild ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/168 "2020-12-17T22:20:07Z")
Also what a fun week for computers > **[Federal investigators find evidence of previously unknown tactics used to...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/government-warns-new-hacking-tactics-russia/2020/12/17/bba43fd8-408c-11eb-a402-fba110db3b42_story.html)** > > The warning Thursday underscores the disastrous reach of Russia’s recent intrusions and described a ‘grave risk’ to governments and critical infrastructure. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/169 "2020-12-18T14:29:34Z")
So @LZ1 how certain are we that this attack was Russian? Because it kinda smells like the whole WMDs thing with the typical politicians talking of “retaliation” and “act of war” etc. To most people a cyber attack is so amorphous that it’s hard for them them assess the damages. You can’t see the body of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, or the fires in Pearl Harbor. We just have to trust what we’re being told. > **[Lawmakers ask whether massive hack amounted to act of war](https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/530784-lawmakers-ask-whether-massive-hack-amounted-to-act-of-war)** > > Lawmakers are raising questions about whether the attack on the federal government widely attributed to Russia constitutes an act of war. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/170 "2020-12-18T14:47:14Z")
With Trump out it’s definitely time to get in some conflicts around the globe to pay back those military lobby special interests. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/b/1b7d3a5851be8274b2ad6a6e354d6eb1eab54740.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/171 "2020-12-18T15:02:38Z")
It’s China or Russia and but most likely Russia. The war comments are politicians who are disconnected from reality if you read back in this thread China has hacked the US a ton over the past 10 years and the same with Russia. On the flip side the US also hacks other countries however in a more measured approach…well unless you’re Iran but hey. This is a decent post about everything and the larger issues [https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/12/17/cyberattacks-cybersecurity-solarwinds-fireeye/](https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2020/12/17/cyberattacks-cybersecurity-solarwinds-fireeye/) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/172 "2020-12-19T03:15:54Z")
thanks for the link. i’d like to see any more content you think it accurate about these things. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/173 "2020-12-19T15:15:02Z")
I mean I know a fair amount from the technical side as far as attribution time will tell. Everyone seems to think its the SVR out of Russia and not the GRU like it usually is. Something like this takes a lot of planning and a lot of hands on keyboards. Personally I was surprised this wasn’t bigger on the news sooner but who knows with the election cycle still unfolding if people want to hear about russia all over our random gov orgs. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/174 "2020-12-21T22:46:56Z")
> **[China Used Stolen Data to Expose CIA Operatives in Africa and Europe](https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/21/china-stolen-us-data-exposed-cia-operatives-spy-networks/)** > > The discovery of U.S. spy networks in China fueled a decadelong global war over data between Beijing and Washington. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/175 "2021-01-26T16:53:03Z")
North Korea is also bored > **[Google: North Korean hackers have targeted security researchers via social...](https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-north-korean-hackers-have-targeted-security-researchers-via-social-media/)** > > Google TAG warns security researchers to be on the lookout when approached by unknown individuals on social media. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/2/d2668ad422f62a8e68c4d680f20d3257bc8598a9.jpeg) **strong text** ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/176 "2021-01-26T17:02:52Z")
NK’s 100 hours of free AOL will be up soon and they’ll be back in the stone age anyway. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/177 "2021-02-12T13:55:52Z")
[https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/](https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/178 "2021-02-12T14:09:53Z")
> [@LZ1](#): > > [Bloomberg - Are you a robot?](https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-supermicro/) Can’t read, paywall, and I sure as hell am not giving Bloomberg any money. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/179 "2021-02-12T16:59:39Z")
No shit it loaded fine for me lol ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108/180 "2021-03-03T13:48:56Z")
> **[China Targets General Electric Again with Intellectual Property Theft -...](https://news.clearancejobs.com/2021/03/02/china-targets-general-electric-again-with-intellectual-property-theft/)** > > A Chinese businessman is indicted for his attempts to steal intellectual property technology from General Electric. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watch-how-real-shit-gets-the-next-few-years-china-hacking-everyone/227108.md?page=10)