# Water bill issue **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 11, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993 "2009-08-11T12:27:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/41 "2009-09-03T11:17:19Z")
> [@95dime](#): > > to use 818000 gallons at that flow it would take just over 113 days which is over 3 1/2 months. Exactly, and there is no way you wouldn’t have heard a leak pushing that much water 24/7, especially at night in the burbs when you can hear a pin drop. Time to get channel 2 involved, and bring up the fact that this is happening to a lot of people. I smell corruption, and someone’s probably skimming. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/42 "2009-09-03T11:32:01Z")
> [@Eazy716](#): > > well, I had a guy from the water company come out yesterday. He looked at everything, looked at my “leaky” toilet. There is a tiny drip that he spotted, which is fine. However he was there 30 mins and noted less than a liter of water used. He told me it’s physically and mathematically impossible that I could have used that much water. I figured when he said this they would be willing to help me out. I asked him what’s the best way to go about fighting it and he said “unfortunately, you don’t have a leg to stand on”. :ham: > > I wanted to smack him one in the face. He sat there and told me it’s impossible I could have used this much water, and has the nerve to tell me there’s nothing I can do to fight it…and my option was to setup a payment plan :picard: > > He said he would go back to the office and tell the guy what he told me, but that doesn’t mean anything on the bill will change. I’m going to call in today and see if by chance they will decide to work something out, but I’m not getting my hopes up. After that I will have to decide my next course of action. > > edit: how many gallons do you guys use per quarter roughly? So your meter actually indicates that you used that much water? ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/43 "2009-09-03T11:33:22Z")
> [@Vrooom](#): > > we had a pipe burst during the winter and our bathroom was filled with water. it was leaking for about 2-3 days and our bill was only $48 We had a tenant leave the kitchen water running on full blast for 3 days when she left town, and our bill was about 5 bucks higher than usual, or about $45 for a two family home for a quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/44 "2009-09-03T11:46:59Z")
> [@Eazy716](#): > > well, I had a guy from the water company come out yesterday. He looked at everything, looked at my “leaky” toilet. There is a tiny drip that he spotted, which is fine. However he was there 30 mins and noted less than a liter of water used. He told me it’s physically and mathematically impossible that I could have used that much water. I figured when he said this they would be willing to help me out. I asked him what’s the best way to go about fighting it and he said “unfortunately, you don’t have a leg to stand on”. :ham: > > I wanted to smack him one in the face. He sat there and told me it’s impossible I could have used this much water, and has the nerve to tell me there’s nothing I can do to fight it…and my option was to setup a payment plan :picard: > > He said he would go back to the office and tell the guy what he told me, but that doesn’t mean anything on the bill will change. I’m going to call in today and see if by chance they will decide to work something out, but I’m not getting my hopes up. After that I will have to decide my next course of action. > > edit: how many gallons do you guys use per quarter roughly? if you lay down and pay this, i will find you and smack you in the face… you better take this as far as it needs to go to get them to remove it… my father works at the buffalo news if chanell 2 doesnt seem to want to do much, but they will Make sure when you cantact chan 2 that you dont just send an email, you call and talk to somebody… and setup a time when you can bring in your water bill ---
**Author:** ![SilverGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SilverGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SilverGT)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/45 "2009-09-04T08:28:17Z")
im in to see a water authority smack down keep this updated lol! ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/46 "2009-09-04T15:44:40Z")
A girl at work just paid a $600 water bill after I told her not to. She is on my shit list now. I showed her how unrealistic it is and that I had heard of several other instances just like hers… but she can’t go without it. This is fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/47 "2009-09-04T15:46:14Z")
you could always sue them… no judge would side with them… ---
**Author:** ![SoraNezumi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/soranezumi/32/5057_2.png) [@SoraNezumi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoraNezumi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/48 "2009-09-04T20:07:57Z")
I wonder what the maximim gal per min the meter can read… and how long at that maximum would it take to reach 800K gal? Is it even possible for a residential meter to flow that much water in 30-40 days? ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/49 "2009-09-04T20:10:19Z")
The lady I work with said the water company had been underestimating her water usage. They didn’t say for how long of a period though. ---
**Author:** ![SoraNezumi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/soranezumi/32/5057_2.png) [@SoraNezumi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoraNezumi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/50 "2009-09-04T20:24:45Z")
I just looked up a random residential water meter… the Neptune 1 1/2" has a max flow of 100 US gpm. That means it would take about 6 days to flow 800Kgal at its absolute maximum. ---
**Author:** ![GA2002GT2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5ac83/32.png) [@GA2002GT2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GA2002GT2)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/51 "2009-09-05T17:06:32Z")
Okay look at it this way. If the Wellsville Fire Dep. Has a fully involved house fire and a class A pumper is the attack truck. That’s 1000gpm on a 2 ½ at 230psi. So it would take 818 mins or 13 ½ hours of straight stream. Now that’s one hell of a fire. No way a leaky anything would cause that. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/52 "2009-09-08T12:16:55Z")
anyone interested in contacting ch. 2 and whoever else, shoot me a PM. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/53 "2009-09-08T12:31:08Z")
if 800k was missing, the water company would come looking for a leak… this is a billing department disaster, not a leaky toilet. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/54 "2009-09-08T12:33:22Z")
> [@Eazy716](#): > > anyone interested in contacting ch. 2 and whoever else, shoot me a PM. why wouldnt you do it yourself? :purextc: ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/55 "2009-09-08T12:43:28Z")
I’m planning on it, however, as mentioned previously in this thread by Tbird…others may be interested in doing the same. The more people with this issue, the more it seems ECWA is in the wrong and it’s not a one time screw up that they refuse to acknowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/56 "2009-09-08T13:08:16Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > So your meter actually indicates that you used that much water? :wstupid: Anyone with half a brain knows that you didn’t use 800,000 gallons of water in one month. There are three ways that this bill happened: 1. They underestimated the shit out of your usage for a long time and then had a massive correction when you stopped service. This would mean that they are right and you owe them. 2. The meter is faulty. 3. They fucked up the paperwork. A quick glance at your meter and a couple of old bills will tell you whether or not it’s 1 or 3. I hope by now you have verified this. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/57 "2009-09-08T13:08:48Z")
It does. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/58 "2009-09-08T13:14:08Z")
Oof. That makes it hard. ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/59 "2009-09-08T13:21:13Z")
That’s the big issue. I’m not one to try and duck out of my obligations. If I legitimately used that water, then I have no issue paying for it. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993/60 "2009-09-08T13:31:41Z")
How long since your last non-estimated bill? If you don’t know the water company will have that information. If they’ve been estimating for over a year it’s easier to believe it was a leak. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-bill-issue/71993.md?page=4)