# WATER FOUR GAS...CMOOOOOON? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [May 14, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427 "2008-05-14T12:18:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/1 "2008-05-14T12:18:48Z")
Long story short. A guy from work has had this on his car for sometime now. He said his Ford Truck normally got 15mpg, after adding this he now gets 23mpg. this is the first ive heard of this, what do you guys think [http://waterfourgas.com/](http://waterfourgas.com/) ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/2 "2008-05-14T12:22:00Z")
:picard: ---
**Author:** ![RLB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rlb/32/5196_2.png) [@RLB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RLB)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/3 "2008-05-14T12:23:09Z")
hmmmm ---
**Author:** ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/4 "2008-05-14T12:24:26Z")
does he have one of [these](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TORNADO-VORTEX-MPG-GAS-SAVER-UNIVERSAL-FITS-ALL-CARS_W0QQitemZ360051021484QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item360051021484&) also? ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/5 "2008-05-14T12:24:48Z")
well, water injection is great for keeping CC temps down, and therefore charge cooling. However the steam displaces some of the cyl volume. I can’t see any of that helping MPG. But hey, I never believed in the 500 MPG carb either. ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/6 "2008-05-14T12:25:19Z")
what is all that ---
**Author:** ![Big\_B](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/big_b/32/7490_2.png) [@Big\_B](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Big_B)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/7 "2008-05-14T12:26:09Z")
idk man its looks kinda sketchy but hey if it works cool ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/8 "2008-05-14T12:30:06Z")
> is not my invention. It is a little-known technology to make Hydrogen On Demand: we generate Hydrogen on board the car or TRUCK, only when needed by the engine. No need to store Hydrogen; no need to pay for Hydrogen either! This technology embraces low-cost devices and methods for optimum fuel economy and emissions prevention: > lol ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/9 "2008-05-14T12:31:21Z")
it’s probably in his head. I cannot see this helping at all. Or if it does positively effect MPG, it’s probably doing other damage somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/10 "2008-05-14T12:32:25Z")
As soon as I saw the design/layout of the site…I :roll: 'ed ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/11 "2008-05-14T12:33:53Z")
eh. there may be some merit to it. I mean, you CAN run an internal combustion engine on hydrogen, the problem is that generating hydrogen w/ electrolysis is usually inefficient. However, i guess if you had a burley alternator, you could do it. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/12 "2008-05-14T12:35:09Z")
Someone sign up & then post the designs. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/13 "2008-05-14T12:35:42Z")
he drove it to work…car starts and runs fine idk about the mpg cuz its not my car. my civic gets 34mpg, well it did last week. but if i could get 40…thatd would be sweet theres 6 guys from work that all went in on buying the book. then they are gonna make there own. i might drop them some $$$ to get myself a copy. ill do it to the civic for shits and giggles and maybe it will work but im not doing it to the S ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/14 "2008-05-14T12:40:12Z")
Even if they can generate it, usually the methods currently used for it can not make it fast enough. Unless they know of some secret way to do it unknown to the world. P.S. Don’t forget this. [http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magnet-Fuel-Booster-Increase-Save-Gas-More-MPG-NEW\_W0QQitemZ270235623499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item270235623499&](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Magnet-Fuel-Booster-Increase-Save-Gas-More-MPG-NEW_W0QQitemZ270235623499QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item270235623499&) ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/15 "2008-05-14T12:40:58Z")
creating hydrogen w/ electrolysis is easy. A hoffman voltameter is simple to make and will produce fairly pure hydrogen from seawater. However, I’m unsure how you would tune the delivery. That would be the hardest part. I guess you could make an inverse FMU that lowered fuel pressure based on hydrogen delivery, which could be pressure based, but i’m unsure about how much pressure the electrolysis of water will generate… According to wiki, it’s more effective at high temps too, so you could run exhaust through a heat exchanger to heat the water. If i had more time, this would be something worth investigating. ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/16 "2008-05-14T12:49:23Z")
:snky: [http://www.mininova.org/tor/1193857](http://www.mininova.org/tor/1193857) ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/17 "2008-05-14T12:54:29Z")
oh snap?^ ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/18 "2008-05-14T12:56:04Z")
Isn’t this old news? There is a video going around of a guy with an engine that runs on water. Wasn’t it posted on here? ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/19 "2008-05-14T13:02:23Z")
> [@burnt\_toast](#): > > :snky: > > [http://www.mininova.org/tor/1193857](http://www.mininova.org/tor/1193857) > [@rugsr](#): > > oh snap?^ It’s legit. Scanned with avg and bit defender. just open the index.html file. it’s all interactive and fairly easy to navigate. enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427/20 "2008-05-14T13:07:05Z")
p.s. the setup/design/installation doesn’t start until about 8-9 pages into book 1. …after all the “i bet you didn’t know!!1!” information… this was written by a very excited person. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/water-four-gas-cmoooooon/48427.md?page=2)