# Watervliet + Statie = How Bad?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [August 6, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640 "2012-08-06T19:24:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 12
### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/221 "2012-10-03T07:12:23Z")
Because its one more thing an officer has to deal with when stopping a car. No one wants to be pulled over. An officer doesn’t know who he is pulling over.
Not to mention the safety issue. I had 2-1/2% on my rear windows and 5% on my sides of my Civic years ago. Looked cool. But I almost hit a guy in a cross walk so I ripped it off.
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/222 "2012-10-03T07:14:29Z")
Have you ever watched a cop when he pulls someone over? Notice how they touch a part of your car to leave a fingerprint? Must be a conspiracy.
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/223 "2012-10-03T07:17:42Z")
> [@WTB: Trusted Buffalo Detailers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-trusted-buffalo-detailers/50345/12):
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> :rofl I’m so glad I started this tanget.
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> Mildly off topic but is everyone from the Russian area of the world this stubborn or is it just Vlad and Ilya.
It’s an Eastern European thing. :lol
> [@FS: 22" Viewsonic (VX2235WM) monitor. \*make offer\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-22-viewsonic-vx2235wm-monitor-make-offer/50575/19):
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> Because its one more thing an officer has to deal with when stopping a car.
I’m sorry, but that’s just dumb dude (not your response but their likely reasoning behind it which is probably the same reason you gave). The BEST thing to do if a cop wants to see EVERYTHING is to lower the windows (which is why I do it automatically). I feel it puts them at ease and to be honest, given how many times I’ve been stopped and how I’ve made out…I’d say it works.
> [@AMERICA](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/america/50799/21):
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> Have you ever watched a cop when he pulls someone over? Notice how they touch a part of your car to leave a fingerprint? Must be a conspiracy.
Yes I have noticed this. I don’t see how touching the car will help them knowing what’s going on inside though? Tint or no tint.
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/224 "2012-10-03T07:21:18Z")
Are your hands out the window too?
Why do cops get to type on laptops while driving and we can’t text? Why can they open carry in NY?
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/225 "2012-10-03T07:23:23Z")
Nope lol, but they are in visible (on the wheel most of the time).
And actually, that’s a good question. I guess they are superior human (or Robocops!?) beings who can handle multi-tasking. God knows no other citizen can. :dunno
As for open carry, I think that’s self explanatory :lol
Let’s compare apples to apples here.
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### Author:  [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/226 "2012-10-03T07:28:11Z")
People still tint cars?
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/227 "2012-10-03T07:32:31Z")
Touch the car, leave a finger print, cop gets shot and killed, proof your car was there or one more thing to link you there.
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/228 "2012-10-03T07:35:08Z")
> [@Running dual monitors, some questions and video card suggestions...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/running-dual-monitors-some-questions-and-video-card-suggestions/50811/2):
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> Touch the car, leave a finger print, cop gets shot and killed, proof your car was there or one more thing to link you there.
Makes sense.
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### Author:  [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/229 "2012-10-03T13:56:25Z")
> [@FS: 22" Viewsonic (VX2235WM) monitor. \*make offer\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-22-viewsonic-vx2235wm-monitor-make-offer/50575/15):
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> Too long. Didn’t read.
:rofl
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/230 "2012-10-04T05:58:08Z")
Yet again, common sense can save you from getting shot in the face if you are a cop approaching a car with tint.
“Driver and any passangers, please roll down all your windows and put both hands out the windows and on the roof of the vehicle” demanded over the patrol car loud speaker by the officer.
Use the tools your given to keep you safe.
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### Author:  [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2012, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/231 "2012-10-04T06:00:29Z")
> [@Running dual monitors, some questions and video card suggestions...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/running-dual-monitors-some-questions-and-video-card-suggestions/50811/2):
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> Touch the car, leave a finger print, cop gets shot and killed, proof your car was there or one more thing to link you there.
- dash cam that comes on the second you flip the lights on.
My buddy palms the taillight on every car he pulls over, heck I even caught him walking by his own car once and doing it! lol Instinctivly he did it he said hahah.
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### Author:  [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/232 "2012-10-04T16:23:50Z")
PISS! PISS OUT MY ASS!
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### Author:  [@Kingpin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kingpin)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/233 "2012-10-04T19:22:16Z")
Just my $0.02 for reference:
Moved up here from FL. Civic had 15% on all windows except the windshield. Illegal in FL or NY. Had for years in FL with no issue (includes some traffic stops - no tickets). Also note i grew up there and every car was tinted the same; 15% front and back over 10 years no issues. Move up here and had FL plates for a year and no tickets. Switch to NY plates and get 2 tint tickets in two or three months. Was pulled over for nothing else but tint.
My traffic stop routine with tint was this (happens regardless of weather): stopped, engine off, all windows down (before coming to a stop), and at night all dome lights on + headlights on. Both hands on wheel. All movement by me was announced to cops (where paperwork was located). Safety was not an issue. Always ticketed. BS
I can buy the safety thing if people create a problem. But if people go out of their way to remove the issues all together then the offices discretion should over rule. Not the case up here, tickets are $150-$250 in my experience (depends on the county). And you get two tickets: one for the front windows and one for the back. Complete money grab IMO.
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### Author:  [@HTA86\_Evo\_IX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HTA86_Evo_IX)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/234 "2012-10-07T15:06:37Z")
every time ive ever been pulled over i shut my car off, roll my window down before he/she approaches and put my hands on top of the steering wheel or put both on door and just wait for the next command. i dont shuffle for anything, my wallet is always in my console infront of the shifter… make their lives less stressful and they will make yours less stressful as well…
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### Author:  [@yota](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yota)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/235 "2012-10-07T15:25:50Z")
My Tahoe was tinted with 5% over the factory tint on the cargo area- dark as shit, with factory 18% on the rear doors and 35% on the front doors. With NC plates, I never had an issue, anywhere. I also was never bothered by bright headlights behind me while driving and could see anything I needed to see at any given time while driving, day or night. The only time I ever had an issue was backing up in dark areas at night, and then I just rolled my front windows down. When I had the TA tinted up here, I had 35% on the front and 20% on the back. I’m kinda glad now they did a shit job and I had it taken off because next time it gets tinted, it will be darker. Legal tint in the south is generally 30-35% on the front windows, depending on state and is not dark AT ALL from inside the vehicle IMHO. It’s also MUCH cheaper to get a vehicle tinted down there too and a receipt book from Walmart will generally get you off the hook on a tint ticket. This state is ridiculous when it comes to tint and guns- all the more reason I can’t wait to leave.
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### Author:  [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/236 "2012-10-09T16:42:02Z")
I always park as obnoxiously as possible when an officer of the law wants me to pull over (if there is public land on the shoulder, pull onto the grass) and then spin the tires when pulling away from the stop. This can be done regardless of whether or not the officer issues a ticket. Don’t do this if you just washed your car though, because the tires will kick up mud onto your car.
Best way to tackle it IMO.
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### Author:  [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/237 "2012-10-11T12:35:42Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/1496):
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> Yet again, common sense can save you from getting shot in the face if you are a cop approaching a car with tint.
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> “Driver and any passangers, please roll down all your windows and put both hands out the windows and on the roof of the vehicle” demanded over the patrol car loud speaker by the officer.
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> Use the tools your given to keep you safe.
a person doesnt have to roll his window down all the way and put his hands on his roof during a normal traffic stop.
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### Author:  [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/238 "2012-10-11T12:43:32Z")
> [@Fireworks displays](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fireworks-displays/50812/2):
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> :facepalm
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> :lol
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> SilverandSLOW (keyword?), where are most guns hidden in cars? If you look at 100 cars with guns in them, where do you think most of those guns would be?
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> As for the revenue, I never mentioned jurisdictions. It’s a STATE law. Which is what I said.
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> If cop safety is what NYS is after (which I still disagree is the case), the better law, than some BS tint law, is to require all stopped vehicles to lower all windows when the stop occurs. That would be the ultimate pro-cop safety move, would it not? Because even with untinted windows at night, when cars are driving by as a cop is approaching…there could be glare/reflections on the windows, etc. Why would NYS do that though? It won’t bring in any revenue if they can’t ticket you for it. Tint tickets to me are just as stupid as the ticket you can get for having crap hanging from your mirror? REALLY? If that ticket isn’t an example of a money grab, I don’t know what it is. I actually got stopped for having stuff on my Maxima’s mirror but he let me go with a warning.
A gun can be anywhere whats your point? Under the seat, in the console, in his pocket
I just told you theres a safety issue with tint at night and not being able to see out the windows well, so its not a revenue issue its a safety issue.
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### Author:  [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/239 "2012-10-11T22:15:38Z")
> [@Random question.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/random-question/50857/2):
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> A gun can be anywhere whats your point? Under the seat, in the console, in his pocket
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> I just told you theres a safety issue with tint at night and not being able to see out the windows well, so its not a revenue issue its a safety issue.
Safety issue seeing out at night? I have no problems. You need to either get your eyes checked or stop assuming everyone is as blind as you.
:lol
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/240 "2012-10-12T05:13:44Z")
You’re retarded.
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