# Watervliet + Statie = How Bad?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [August 6, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640 "2012-08-06T19:24:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/watervliet-statie-how-bad/264640/109 "2012-08-07T12:08:12Z")

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> [@So my Dad's gone to the dark side.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-my-dads-gone-to-the-dark-side/50397/9):
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> you dont need a lawyer if you dont care about points… but theres no way in hell a DA is reducing an 8 point violation to no points without a lawyer…

bingo

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