# way to go NYS senate \[gay marriage\] **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806 "2009-12-02T12:25:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/181 "2009-12-04T10:32:49Z")
The more money we tie up in the shit, the more we all lose. One more reason to be libertarian. People just don’t get it. I hate that liberals and conservatives are banking off debates like these. This isn’t even something the government should be wasting their time with. Separation of church and state. Marriage is a legal institution. Period. Are protestants against gay marriage? I don’t expect most protestants to even know that protestantism was started partly against the sacraments expect the Eucharist and Baptism, because who really looks into the things they believe in and fight for these days anyway, but I would like to know what an official protestant stance is on this. Guess that’s tough since they don’t hava da Popea. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/182 "2009-12-04T10:39:42Z")
Your argument replaces widely-held societal norms with individual preference. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/183 "2009-12-04T10:59:22Z")
> [@walter](#): > Hey, thats pleasing to the lesbian community too!! ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/184 "2009-12-04T11:07:04Z")
> [@walter](#): > > REALLY JOSH, you don’t think there are similar events for perverse straight people? > > [http://tinyurl.com/yfjmrfv](http://tinyurl.com/yfjmrfv) > > [http://tinyurl.com/yf3zaul](http://tinyurl.com/yf3zaul) > > [Daily Fantasy Sports | Best DFS Sites in the US for 2024](http://tinyurl.com/dp82s) > > [http://tinyurl.com/yj7os4f](http://tinyurl.com/yj7os4f) How are any of those events associated strictly for straight people? You mean there are no homosexuals that attend furry gatherings, fantasy gatherings, porn conventions, or lesbians that would flash their boobs during mardi gras? None of those event revolve around a sexual preference ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/185 "2009-12-04T11:52:20Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > How are any of those events associated strictly for straight people? You mean there are no homosexuals that attend furry gatherings, fantasy gatherings, porn conventions, or lesbians that would flash their boobs during mardi gras? None of those event revolve around a sexual preference :picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard::picard: ---
**Author:** ![BlkKnight099](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkknight099/32/5276_2.png) [@BlkKnight099](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkKnight099)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/186 "2009-12-04T12:01:17Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > That article right there is stating that children of same sex parents pretty much is equivalent to a child of a divorced couple as far as psychological impacts. Proof of otherwise? [http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/109/2/341?ijkey=dee74800eb4b37d4388ddbb5ac99cdf949e83dbc&keytype2=tf\_ipsecsha](http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/109/2/341?ijkey=dee74800eb4b37d4388ddbb5ac99cdf949e83dbc&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha) Full text article is free. Go do some reading 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/187 "2010-06-07T08:33:05Z")
:cough:[bump](http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/07/lesbian.children.adjustment/index.html):cough: > A nearly 25-year study concluded that children raised in lesbian households were psychologically well-adjusted and had fewer behavioral problems than their peers. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/188 "2010-06-07T10:55:25Z")
:tup: ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/189 "2010-06-07T11:20:21Z")
> [@walter](#): > > :cough:[bump](http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/07/lesbian.children.adjustment/index.html):cough: link? interested in the study. ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/190 "2010-06-07T11:43:04Z")
Honestly, if they’re going to claim marriage as a religious event, then civil unions should be made the standard for people being married, whether it’s same sex marriage or not. Make marriage something people can go through via their church if they want, but making it the standard for joining two people in union is idiotic. This is because of the fact that it then becomes subject to the beliefs of people of religion, which goes directly against the separation of church and state. Also, @ person who says bible is fact: you’re stupid. I’d elaborate, but other NYSpeeders have done that already. ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/191 "2010-06-07T14:36:12Z")
Didn’t this forum used to be about cars? ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/192 "2010-06-07T16:38:27Z")
> [@Minglor](#): > > link? > interested in the study. You quoted the link… ---
**Author:** ![Event](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/event/32/5443_2.png) [@Event](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Event)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/193 "2010-06-07T22:08:46Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > Didn’t this forum used to be about cars? It was. Until you clicked the link to off-topic. We are now off the topic of cars. ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/194 "2010-06-08T23:28:52Z")
this country was built on the foundation of people being able to enter into contracts with eachother, and it is the federal governments job to make sure the contracs are upheld. If two people enter into a contract of marriage the governments job is to make sure the contract is upheld. End of thread. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/195 "2010-06-09T06:01:52Z")
> [@walter](#): > > You quoted the link… fucking Iphone… Thanks! > [@97\_B18b1](#): > > this country was built on the foundation of people being able to enter into contracts with eachother, and it is the federal governments job to make sure the contracs are upheld. If two people enter into a contract of marriage the governments job is to make sure the contract is upheld. End of thread. what? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/196 "2010-06-09T07:30:19Z")
So lets call it a civil contract and be done. The “marriage” vows can be a religious thing administered by a priest but they should just qualify you to get the same civil contract from a court. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/197 "2010-06-09T12:26:44Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > So lets call it a civil contract and be done. The “marriage” vows can be a religious thing administered by a priest but they should just qualify you to get the same civil contract from a court. sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/198 "2010-06-09T14:18:00Z")
Garth, marriage in some countries is punishment for shop lifting ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/199 "2010-06-09T15:15:52Z")
Would you marry your best friend to get his free health care? ---
**Author:** ![97\_B18b1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/cdc98d/32.png) [@97\_B18b1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97_B18b1)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/200 "2010-06-09T23:12:00Z")
I dont know how to explain it any better. Marriage is a contract. The government isnt SUPPOSED to be allowed to interfere in any contract that exists between two people. If two gay people want to get married and make it official with a contract they are supposed to be able to. > [@Minglor](#): > > fucking Iphone… > Thanks! > > what? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=11)