# way to go NYS senate \[gay marriage\] **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806 "2009-12-02T12:25:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LayzieJR4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layziejr4/32/5096_2.png) [@LayzieJR4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LayzieJR4)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/41 "2009-12-02T17:03:43Z")
Definitions of marriage on the Web: the state of being a married couple voluntarily joined for life (or until divorce); “a long and happy marriage”; “God bless this union” two people who are married to each other; “his second marriage was happier than the first”; “a married couple without love” the act of marrying; the nuptial ceremony; “their marriage was conducted in the chapel” a close and intimate union; “the marriage of music and dance”; “a marriage of ideas” wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn Marriage (Женитьба, Zhenitba or Zhenit’ba) is a play by the Russian writer, Nikolai Gogol, which was first published in 1842. > **[Marriage (play)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(play))** > > Marriage (Russian: «Женитьба», Zhenit'ba) is a two-act play by the Russian writer Nikolai Gogol, which was written in 1832 and first published in 1842. In the opening scene, a civil servant named Ivan Kuzmich Podkolyosin sits alone in his room smoking a pipe and contemplating marriage. He has hired a matchmaker (Fyokla Ivanovna), as was the custom in Russia at the time, to help find him a bride. As the two converse, the audience discovers that Podkolyosin has been in search of a bride for quit... In conflict of laws, the issue of marriage has assumed increasing public policy significance in a world of increasing multi-ethnic, multi-cultural community existence. > **[Conflict of marriage laws](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(conflict))** > > Conflict of marriage laws is the conflict of laws with respect to marriage in different jurisdictions. When marriage-related issues arise between couples with diverse backgrounds, questions as to which legal systems and norms should be applied to the relationship naturally follow with various potentially applicable systems frequently conflicting with one another. The standard choice of law rules for adjudicating on issues relating to marriage represent a balance between the various public polic... Marriage is the debut album from Canadian rock band Attack in Black, released July 31, 2007. The album was released by Dine Alone Records as both a CD and through digital download. The album won “NXNE Favourite New Indie Record Release” at the 2007 CASBY Awards. > **[Marriage (album)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(album))** > > Marriage is the debut album from Canadian rock band Attack in Black, released July 31, 2007. The album was released by Dine Alone Records as both a CD and through digital download. The album won "NXNE Favourite New Indie Record Release" at the 2007 CASBY Awards. Ben Conoley of Punknews.org praised the band's debut album, saying that "Marriage is an absolutely beautiful blend of punk, rock and folk, with each element coming together almost perfectly with each stylistic influence making appearanc... Marriage is a social, religious, spiritual and/or legal union of individuals that creates kinship. This union may also be called matrimony, while the ceremony that marks its beginning is usually called a wedding and the married status created is sometimes called wedlock. > **[Marriage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage)** > > Marriage, also called matrimony or wedlock, is a socially or ritually recognised union between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between those spouses, as well as between them and any resulting biological or adopted children and affinity (in-laws and other family through marriage). The definition of marriage varies around the world not only between cultures and between religions, but also throughout the history of any given culture and religion, evolving to both expand and constr In... The Marriage is a comic opera in 2 acts by Bohuslav Martinů, to the composer’s own libretto, after the play of the same name by Gogol. > **[The Marriage (opera)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marriage_(opera))** > > The Marriage is a comic opera in 2 acts by Bohuslav Martinů, to the composer's own libretto, after the play of the same name by Nikolai Gogol. The opera was commissioned for television by the NBC, and the NBC Opera Theatre performed the work's world premiere on their television program NBC TV Opera Theatre for a national broadcast in the United States on 2 July 1953. The opera has subsequently been adapted for the stage and recorded on CD. Martinů was first approached to compose an opera for th... The Marriage was the first prime-time network television series to be broadcast regularly in color. It was a situation comedy broadcast live by NBC for seven episodes in the summer of 1954. … > **[Marriage (disambiguation)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marriage)** > > Marriage is a socially or ritually recognized union, or legal contract between spouses. Marriage may also refer to: Married Life is a 2007 American drama film directed by Ira Sachs. The screenplay by Sachs and Oren Moverman is based on the 1953 novel Five … > **[Married Life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(movie))** > > Married Life may refer to: The state of being married; The union of two people, to the exclusion of all others, voluntarily entered into for life; A wedding; A close union; A joining of two parts; A king and a queen as a starting hand in Texas hold 'em [en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marriage](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/marriage) married - a person who is married; “we invited several young marrieds” married - marital: of or relating to the state of marriage; “marital status”; “marital fidelity”; “married bliss” wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn Married is a BBC radio comedy with science fiction themes. First aired on BBC Radio 4, the main character is Robin Lightfoot, a confirmed bachelor … > **[Married (radio series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married_(radio_series))** > > Married is a BBC radio comedy with science fiction themes, first aired on BBC Radio 4. The main character is Robin Lightfoot, a confirmed bachelor with a successful architectural practice, who wakes up one day in a parallel universe in which he is married with two children. Unfortunately his counterpart in the parallel universe, who has evidently been swapped into our universe, is a cad, a womanizer, a swindler and possibly a murderer. Only the younger of the two children, Ned, believes Robin's s... Someone please show me where it says anything about marriage being only between a man and a woman? I don’t give a fuck what your religion says about it. I’im looking at the defintion of the word itself and what it truely means. Not some religious wack jobs interpretation of it. ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/42 "2009-12-02T17:07:08Z")
just going to say it… fuck religion. yep. ---
**Author:** ![LayzieJR4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layziejr4/32/5096_2.png) [@LayzieJR4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LayzieJR4)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/43 "2009-12-02T17:08:22Z")
> [@dawn](#): > > just going to say it… > > fuck religion. > > yep. This. Like seriously take a look at the worlds problems and relgion is basically the major cause of most of it if not all. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/44 "2009-12-02T17:10:59Z")
Marriage is a religious sacrament and should not be endorsed by government. For financial/legal purposes, civil-unions are fine. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/45 "2009-12-02T17:13:53Z")
The problem seems to be the word marriage. If this was at first brought up as ‘lawful union’ or some other term no-one would give a damn. There is no reason the government should deny same sex unions. They should get all the legal benefits a marriage gets. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/46 "2009-12-02T17:23:21Z")
> [@66impalass](#): > > It has everything to do, if marriage is such a sacred term how can someone that is not true to the book throw stones? > > Or do you not get it? You seem to think that people who have religious tenancies all blindly support every word in that book. Most people are not religious extremists hence the use of the word extremist. Now let me change my tone to help you understand what I think is a simple way to resolve the issue… Those bible thumping rednecks are defensive over the term marriage and don’t want to share it with gays. Lets switch the wording around to confuse these right wingers in a way that they think they’ll have won. Simply have the government change its wording to define any and all “unions” to be civil unions offering all those engaged in one to the same protections as everyone else. Then let the bible belt extremists call it whatever they want. You can’t disagree with that now that I changed the language a bit. Right? I support my argument by asking you to survey a few people ask them what benefits they think gays shouldn’t receive and why, then ask others if they think gay people should be allowed to “marry.” While the government thinks that the two questions are asking the same thing I’ll bet you the common bible thumper will see a big difference and the answers will reflect that. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/47 "2009-12-02T17:25:00Z")
^True I don’t see this as an equal rights issue as much as an issue of nomenclature. ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/48 "2009-12-02T17:26:18Z")
> [@mafdark](#): > > I think it DOES matter to people. Do you really think that people like my grandmother give a damn about legal protections for homosexuals? or is it just the use of the term marriage? Most people from the “elderly” generation a openly racist too… a lot has changed in the previous 80 years. I think it’s safe to say that as time goes on, things like this gay marriage stuff will become more and more acceptable, simply because the ones saying no to it will soon die of old age. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/49 "2009-12-02T17:39:03Z")
My old professor always used to say conservatives main concerns are the 3 G’s; Guns, God and Gays. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/50 "2009-12-02T18:07:05Z")
To protect the sanctity of marriage gays can’t get married, but The Bachelor/Bachelorette, who wants to marry a millionaire, etc are all fine? What’s the divorce rate at now? \>50%? I think us straighties are doing such a great job bastardizing marriage that any argument against gay marriage is laughable at best. I thought all people were supposed to have equal rights in a republic? Not suppress the minority via the will of the majority. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/51 "2009-12-02T18:09:35Z")
gays will be around long after religion is extinct. i guess they’ll just have to wait. more realistically though, our generation is so much more tolerant that it is just a matter of time before its a non-issue ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/52 "2009-12-02T18:27:05Z")
fattypants Maziarz: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuWJ6LQ9R4U](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuWJ6LQ9R4U) ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/53 "2009-12-02T18:29:01Z")
> [@bing](#): > > gays will be around long after religion is extinct. i guess they’ll just have to wait. > > more realistically though, our generation is so much more tolerant that it is just a matter of time before its a non-issue this is what i was getting at. It’s just a matter of time. As people get less and less scared of their own shadows and stop relying on fairy tales to sleep at night, issues like this won’t really be…well, an issue. Did witches used to float or sink when they were thrown in water? And like fry said… where’s the sanctity in “marriage” anyway? How many politicians involved in this bill do you think have cheated on their wives with low-class hookers, yet think gay marriage is an absurd idea? Even Tiger Woods, the all-american hero, is a man of many women! ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/54 "2009-12-02T18:52:54Z")
Antidisestablishmentarianism much? That’s the problem with these old timer congressmen. Once our generation overtakes the senate in about 30-40 years things will change. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/55 "2009-12-02T18:55:40Z")
Ugh. I just can’t stand the right’s “moral values” bullshit. You don’t like something (gay marriage, abortion, smoking weed), don’t do it. Don’t base your legislative agenda on making sure no one else can do it either. ---
**Author:** ![Starling](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starling/32/5146_2.png) [@Starling](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Starling)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/56 "2009-12-02T18:59:17Z")
> [@RedDawg](#): > > call it by a diff name though, marriage = man + woman. Marriage is between two people that love each other, why does sex matter? ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/57 "2009-12-02T19:05:09Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Ugh. I just can’t stand the right’s “moral values” bullshit. You don’t like something (gay marriage, abortion, smoking weed), don’t do it. Don’t base your legislative agenda on making sure no one else can do it either. Not even sure if it’s so much of that. I think it’s more so, pleasing the population which is primarily Catholic (or similar denomination). I think a lot of these decisions come based on religious exposure. I mean stem cell research? Why would this be banned at all? ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/58 "2009-12-02T19:07:49Z")
> [@ProgRocker](#): > > Not even sure if it’s so much of that. I think it’s more so, pleasing the population which is primarily Catholic (or similar denomination). I think a lot of these decisions come based on religious exposure. I mean stem cell research? **Why would this be banned at all**? see zombie thread. :brainnnns: ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/59 "2009-12-02T19:15:50Z")
> [@LayzieJR4](#): > > This. Like seriously take a look at the worlds problems and relgion is basically the major cause of most of it if not all. +1, I dont practice or follow any religion, not for that reason, but regardless. I still want to get married. ---
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