# way to go NYS senate \[gay marriage\] **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806 "2009-12-02T12:25:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/101 "2009-12-03T10:34:03Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. Ezekiel 23:19-20 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/102 "2009-12-03T10:34:19Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. Details? ---
**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/103 "2009-12-03T10:35:04Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. No it hasn’t. It has however been manipulated by every religion to read the way that particular denomination finds to be convenient. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/104 "2009-12-03T10:36:35Z")
man, i cant hate for people _believing_ in the bible and understanding its a collection of stories meant to teach and such. but to think that the bible is a book of facts is just ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/105 "2009-12-03T10:39:21Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > are you hoenstlty trying to change my opinion?g. No, I was waiting for you to either explain my misunderstanding, or admit to the hypocrisy of the statement. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/106 "2009-12-03T10:39:51Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. [sarcasm]the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven.[/sarcasm] You meant this right? ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/107 "2009-12-03T10:44:16Z")
> [@walter](#): > > No, I was waiting for you to either explain my misunderstanding, or admit to the hypocrisy of the statement. wait…so are we on the same page now? At least in the same book? ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/108 "2009-12-03T10:55:13Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/109 "2009-12-03T10:55:42Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > wait…so are we on the same page now? At least in the same book? Doubt it. I was saying that you said “no DNA = no kids for gays” and I was saying that you must clearly feel the same way about straight parents adopting children, and wondering why you felt that kids should be abandoned instead of being placed in a family. Among other things… ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/110 "2009-12-03T10:58:43Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Doubt it. > > I was saying that you said “no DNA = no kids for gays” and I was saying that you must clearly feel the same way about straight parents adopting children, and wondering why you felt that kids should be abandoned instead of being placed in a family. > > Among other things… oh. i was basically ignoring your posts by just reading the first line. 1.) essentially, yes no DNA - no kids for gays, though i was much more poetic 2.) the argument isn’t that the parents whether gay or start are “fit” to be parents, but subjecting a child to an environment that is clearly un-natural 3.) I don’t know the full adoption process, but i know there are TONS of heterosexual parents that want to adopt, but this is also a government runned process that would require a completely different thread. Basically…there’s no shortage of adoptive parents for “newborns”… i believe the whole foster children process is different. This topic is beyond my knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/111 "2009-12-03T11:02:53Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > i’m not saying that gays don’t have parenting abilities. I don’t think any child deserves to be subjected to it if neither gay parent are theirs biolgoically. This. ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/112 "2009-12-03T11:04:34Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. :fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail::fail: Ok then… uhm… I don’t even know what to say to you… I personally think if that’s what you trully believe you are beyond any form of reason. As for Gays being married… WHO CARES!!! Let them, what personal harm will it do to you??? honestly? None! An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will!!! ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/113 "2009-12-03T11:17:25Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > the bible is 100% factual, and has been proven. [http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by\_name.html](http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html) ---
**Author:** ![jt76](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jt76/32/5100_2.png) [@jt76](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jt76)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/114 "2009-12-03T11:22:18Z")
:io: gay marriage, religion, politics… lets add abortion to this discussion somehow :tup: ---
**Author:** ![MOBOOST4U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/115 "2009-12-03T11:24:46Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > [SAB Contradictions](http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html) Well when you start putting everything it says under a microscope nothing really makes sense ![http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/swykk/CharlieDay.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/c/1/c1e4bffd506b2628cbfdff5a49162a8529e24980.jpeg) Sorry I had to lol. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/116 "2009-12-03T11:41:47Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#): > > [SAB Contradictions](http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html) for someone who is intelligent, sometimes you disappoint me. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/117 "2009-12-03T11:54:07Z")
lol @ speedster. 97B18b1’s going to have an aneurism when he reads the crap you claimed about the constitution. So if you believe the bible is factual then you believe that giant aliens called Nephilim mated with human women and had superhuman hybrid alien/human offspring? (See Genesis 6:4)Cause that’s pretty friggin cool. :tup: Seriously though. Put down your Sarah Palin book. Her rhetoric is burning your brain. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/118 "2009-12-03T12:00:09Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > those who CARE about this mess are the same ones who care about there country. **This country was founded on biblical standards of living and beliefs. when America was started, the first leaders used their beliefs in what God says in the bible is right and wrong to form the constitution** and create the first laws and rules of the formerly great country known as the USA. homosexuality is WRONG, and there are multiple verses within the bible that condemn it. (if you want the verses I will gladly post them, just ask) > what we need to do is take a look back at some formerly great nations that thought they could do whatever they wanted (IE homosexuality), where this belief took them, and their activities during their final days. > > 1. Sodom and Gomorrah : **we all know what happened here, destroyed by a storm of fire for their homosexuality and other acts of sexual deviancy. Currently the USA is much worse than S&G ever was.** > > 2. The Roman Empire : just to demonstrate a non biblical example, here are some quotes about the lifestyle of the Romans shortly before the fall of one of the greatest world powers ever. > > “There are at least some signs that something approaching a homosexual subculture was already starting to develop in ancient Rome” > > “In the mid Republic homosexual acts were widely accepted” > > and I will even post the NON biblical link to these facts. > [Homosexuality in ancient Rome - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome) > > **everything I have stated is 100% FACT, not just my personal opinion,** although it is what I also believe. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/119 "2009-12-03T12:02:58Z")
the bible… lol ---
**Author:** ![Axis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/axis/32/5149_2.png) [@Axis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axis)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/120 "2009-12-03T12:05:16Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > :io: > > gay marriage, religion, politics… lets add abortion to this discussion somehow :tup: don’t forget Hitler. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=7)