# way to go NYS senate \[gay marriage\] **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806 "2009-12-02T12:25:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![speedster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@speedster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedster)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/141 "2009-12-04T04:50:36Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > archeology provides evidence, not proof, of the people and culture in the bible. And in no way shape or form provides any evidence or proof of the theory in the bible which is what your using to justify your claim about homosexuality. you sound like a religious fanatic with these claims and therefore no one will take you seriously. EVIDENCE = PROOF, just like in a murder. If the police have EVIDENCE that someone committed a murder, such as DNA, fingerprints, it is PROOF that the person is guilty. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/142 "2009-12-04T04:55:40Z")
ughhh Does the bible explain global warming?? Dinosaurs? Why the crusades were ok??? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/143 "2009-12-04T05:15:18Z")
added a reference for “statistically proven” ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/144 "2009-12-04T05:17:31Z")
> [@mafdark](#): > > [[QUOTE=walter;1533085]Link to reputable statistics? > Research shows that, on average, children of divorced parents are disadvantaged compared to > children of married-parent families in the area of educational achievement.11 Children of divorce > are more than twice as likely to have serious social, emotional, or psychological problems as > children of intact families—25 percent versus 10 percent.12 > Most divorced families with children experience enormous drops in income, which lessen > somewhat over time but remain significant for years—unless there is a subsequent parental > cohabitation or remarriage.13 Declines in income following divorce account for up to half the > risk for children dropping out of high school, regardless of income prior to the divorce.14 The > effects of divorce on children often last through adulthood. For instance, adult children of > divorce are more likely to experience depression and their own divorces—as well as earn less > income and achieve lower levels of education—compared with adults whose parents remained > married > The 2000 Census revealed that out of 5.5 million cohabiting couples, about 11 percent were > same-sex couples—with slightly more male couples than female. One-third of female same-sex > households and 22 percent of male households, or about 163,000 same-sex households in total, > lived with children under 18 years old.40 (This compares with about 25 million married-couple > households with children under 18.) > Although the research on these families has limitations, the findings are consistent: children > raised by same-sex parents are no more likely to exhibit poor outcomes than children raised by > divorced heterosexual parents.41 Since many children raised by gay or lesbian parents have > undergone the divorce of their parents, researchers have considered the most appropriate > comparison group to be children of heterosexual divorced parents.42 Children of gay or lesbian > parents do not look different from their counterparts raised in heterosexual divorced families > regarding school performance, behavior problems, emotional problems, early pregnancy, or > difficulties finding employment.43 However, as previously indicated, children of divorce are at > higher risk for many of these problems than children of married parents. > ]([http://www.clasp.org/admin/site/publications\_states/files/0086.pdf](http://www.clasp.org/admin/site/publications_states/files/0086.pdf))[http://www.clasp.org/admin/site/publications\_states/files/0086.pdf](http://www.clasp.org/admin/site/publications_states/files/0086.pdf) I think there are additional implications. For an example a boy growing up with his divorced mother may not learn to throw a baseball, while a boy growing up with two lesbians as parents faces a more dire situation; learning to throw a softball.[/QUOTE] there ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/145 "2009-12-04T05:33:38Z")
> [@mafdark](#): > > there :picard: Here is my report that says Ferrari’s are 100% better than Fords therefore I’m buying a BMW. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/146 "2009-12-04T05:38:45Z")
> [@walter](#): > > :picard: > > Here is my report that says Ferrari’s are 100% better than Fords therefore I’m buying a BMW. It states that children raised by homosexual parents have the same problems as divorced parents which is the basis of my original point: > I don’t think any child should be prevented from having a mother (or father). Sure shit happens and parents die or leave but by having a child raised in a family with gay parents they are missing a part of their childhood which has statistically proven to be important. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/147 "2009-12-04T05:42:14Z")
Wait, god exists? Wat? On topic to thread, let the gay ppl be, as long as they aren’t going around wearing assless chaps and rainbow pants I don’t care. Actually, every gay person I know has been extremely nice, I’ve never had a problem with them. Let them marry and let’s stop being ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/148 "2009-12-04T06:06:23Z")
> [@speedster](#): > > EVIDENCE = PROOF, just like in a murder. If the police have EVIDENCE that someone committed a murder, such as DNA, fingerprints, it is PROOF that the person is guilty. evidence [ˈɛvɪdəns] Law matter produced before a court of law in an attempt to prove or disprove a point in issue, such as the statements of witnesses, documents, material objects, etc. evidence is used in the attempt to prove a point, but does not necessarily prove or disprove anything. that is why judges and juries are used to interpret the evidence. evidence is not black and white like proof is. just because someone dug some shit out of the ground and interpreted its connection to the bible favorably does not mean its proof of anything that happened thousands of years before any of us were born. > [@speedster](#): > > I don’t see how this is a contradiction. God created people with free will, he didn’t want robots. With free will came the choice to do good or bad. Some people choose bad and some people choose good. God knew that by giving people free will, there would be consequences if they choose bad. God gave people the choice to live as they want. So ultimately God nor Christianity is to blame for child molesters, rapist, mass murderers, but the mans free will to do wrong and not right. I’m not going to jump on the christianity hate bandwagon and further drive this off topic. I can care less what anyone else believes in. but let me reiterate…God is _omnipotent_. God can see the future, God knows the choices you will make before you make them. God created people knowing the exact choices they were going to make. Therefore God is the one that made the choices and the idea of free will is a crock of shit. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/149 "2009-12-04T06:14:32Z")
So if religion is so factual and true, which one is right? Aladura Asatru Atheism Baha’i Faith Bön Buddhism Religion/Sect/ Belief System Cao Dai Chinese Religion Chopra Center Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox) Christian Science Confucianism Religion/Sect/ Belief System Deism Druze Eckankar Epicureanism Falun Gong Gnosticism Greek Religion Religion/Sect/ Belief System Hare Krishna Hinduism Islam Jainism Jehovah’s Witnesses Religion/Sect/ Belief System Judaism Mayan Religion Mormonism (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) Nation of Islam New Age New Thought Religion/Sect/ Belief System Rastafari Scientology Seventh-day Adventists Shinto Religion/Sect/ Belief System Sikhism Spiritualism, a.k.a. Spiritism Stoicism Taoism Unification Church Unitarian Universalism Wicca Zoroastrianism I find it hard to take anyone that believes you go to a magical place after you die seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/150 "2009-12-04T06:16:38Z")
God isn’t proven to exist so both your arguments are invalid. Stop going OT, this is about gay marriage. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/151 "2009-12-04T06:17:39Z")
Mike, the more you post, the more I like you lol. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/152 "2009-12-04T06:30:27Z")
This thread better get more-gay quick, or it’s going to be closed. Stay on topic. Fighting over ones personal belief system is pointless. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/153 "2009-12-04T06:40:01Z")
![http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/marriage-cake.jpg](http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/marriage-cake.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/154 "2009-12-04T06:41:54Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > This thread better get more-gay quick, or it’s going to be closed. > > Stay on topic. Fighting over ones personal belief system is pointless. Besides you and RedGoober who else is gay? ---
**Author:** ![misteroman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/misteroman/32/7423_2.png) [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/155 "2009-12-04T06:55:35Z")
I will say that Muslim, Christianity, etc,the major religions that have been around from “the start” if you will, are against gay marriage. I have a friend who is Muslim and it seems like the only really different view is that they believe Jesus was a prophet not the son of God. The Quran and Bible are Very similar throughout though. Now I’m sure Scientology(based off a movie from the 50’s) would allow it and all these “New age” religions would allow it. One last thing about this I’d like to say is That just because someone says they are a Christian doesn’t mean they are. If I say I’m a muslim does that mean I am? Of course not. There is more to being a Christian then most people or TV wants you to believe. It is a way of life not just saying, “Yup I believe in Jesus and what he stood for so I’m a Christian”. That is a good start though. Just throwing that in there for all the rapists and child molesters. Hope I didn’t go to far OT. Now, On to gay Marraige LOL! ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/156 "2009-12-04T06:57:27Z")
> [@A.J.](#): > > The reason why you don’t have straight parades is because straights are not lacking any rights that others freely have (and abuse) What rights do gays lack? marriage? > [@A.J.](#): > > Gay parades are there to bring awareness to others who are not aware I think we are all pretty fucking aware that they exist! A gay “PRIDE” parade is for no other reason then to show everyone that they are proud. ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/157 "2009-12-04T07:09:14Z")
Because all gays act/dress like that. NO. I have a friend who is gay, and he goes to church and plays organ for them. ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/158 "2009-12-04T07:10:03Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > What rights do gays lack? marriage? > > I think we are all pretty fucking aware! > > A gay “PRIDE” parade is for no other reason then to show everyone that they are proud. Take my pic down, I was drunk. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/159 "2009-12-04T07:13:26Z")
> [@dawn](#): > > Because all gays act/dress like that. NO. have you not seen a parade? I’m talking specifically about a parade… > [@dawn](#): > > I have a friend who is gay, and he goes to church and plays organ for them. Gays can go to church… i don’t understand what you are getting at. ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/160 "2009-12-04T07:18:37Z")
gays can go to church, and practice, but they can’t get married. that’s what i’m getting at. this whole thread makes me wanna :banghead: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=9)