# way to go NYS senate \[gay marriage\] **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 2, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806 "2009-12-02T12:25:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/161 "2009-12-04T07:19:53Z")
> [@beautfldsastr427](#): > > I was wondering the same thing… especially since the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychological Association say that there’s no difference in being raised by same-sex parents … > > Also, for those saying the state shouldn’t be involved in marriage, what happens to people who are atheists? > The 2000 Census revealed that out of 5.5 million cohabiting couples, about 11 percent were > same-sex couples—with slightly more male couples than female. One-third of female same-sex > households and 22 percent of male households, or about 163,000 same-sex households in total, > lived with children under 18 years old.40 (This compares with about 25 million married-couple > households with children under 18.) > Although the research on these families has limitations, the findings are consistent: children > raised by same-sex parents are no more likely to exhibit poor outcomes than children raised by > divorced heterosexual parents.41 Since many children raised by gay or lesbian parents have > undergone the divorce of their parents, researchers have considered the most appropriate > comparison group to be children of heterosexual divorced parents.42 Children of gay or lesbian > parents do not look different from their counterparts raised in heterosexual divorced families > regarding school performance, behavior problems, emotional problems, early pregnancy, or > difficulties finding employment.43 However, as previously indicated, children of divorce are at > higher risk for many of these problems than children of married parents. That article right there is stating that children of same sex parents pretty much is equivalent to a child of a divorced couple as far as psychological impacts. Proof of otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/162 "2009-12-04T07:25:52Z")
> [@dawn](#): > > gays can go to church, and practice, but they can’t get married. that’s what i’m getting at. > > this whole thread makes me wanna :banghead: there’s a lot of people who go to church that “sin”. You have people that are commiting adultry, theives, liars, etc…but doesn’t mean you’ll see the church condone or approve of the behavior. In the eyes of the church…a sin is a sin. In society…we assign different punishments based on the magnitude of the sin (i.e. prison, death, fine, nothing) The church will never support a “sin”, but you’ll always see a church welcome these people. you make me wanna :banghead: ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/163 "2009-12-04T07:26:47Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > But going back to the original topic, what legally changes when a couple gets married as far as w/ the govt and taxes and such? ??? I can see people wanting to get married from a religious point of view. What I don’t understand is why people would wanna get married that aren’t spiritual. Do you really need a piece of paper to tell you that you wanna be with the other person for life? If your not religious its more of a hassle legal wise if shit don’t work out so why do it. Or is there a monetary gain from it as well? ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/164 "2009-12-04T07:30:38Z")
There is a monetary gain. Shared Health insurance, Taxes filed as Married, etc… Also if my wife watches me do something illegal, she doesn’t have to testify against me. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/165 "2009-12-04T07:34:01Z")
> [@dawn](#): > > gays can go to church, and practice, but they can’t get married. that’s what i’m getting at. > > this whole thread makes me wanna :banghead: going to church is not corelated to getting married. People go to church to practice their faith and try to better their lifes spiritually. If you wanna get married in a church you have to be part of that church to show you are commited to the faith and to one another. This is where the whole controversy is coming in. People see the term marriage as being a more sacred term then going to city hall and getting a piece of paper which I agree should be termed more appropriately. It really is a discrepancy of the whole “seperation of church and state” ---
**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/166 "2009-12-04T07:39:55Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > Also if my wife watches me do something illegal, she doesn’t have to testify against me. sooooooooo what have you done illegally that she doesn’t have to testify against you for ?!?! ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/167 "2009-12-04T07:44:40Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > There is a monetary **loss**. Shared Health insurance, Taxes filed as Married, etc… > > **basically you only get half your shit when it hits the fan.** fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/168 "2009-12-04T07:44:58Z")
^Gay rape? I mean…grape. I mean, what? lol. Our culture is founded on many different beliefs and cultures, yet we still discriminate. It’s the American way, yes, but seriously besides the whole “religion” thing (which I find is annoying and retarded) what would be so bad about gays marrying? ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/169 "2009-12-04T07:45:06Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > IMG > . Yup, no straight people ever look retarded :banghead: ![http://www.planetclimax.com/pics_add/freesites/dominatrix+-55-10.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/d/1d215ec23922c879e59e5ed575f6ec070cec072c.jpeg) ![http://www.popularpages.net/pics/dominatrix_2_1311_si.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/d/4d5858766b84828df2d559fb26db3f24be1396b3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/170 "2009-12-04T07:50:51Z")
Ouch, host fail. ---
**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/171 "2009-12-04T08:01:03Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Yup, no straight people ever look retarded :banghead: > > ![http://www.planetclimax.com/pics_add/freesites/dominatrix+-55-10.jpg](http://www.planetclimax.com/pics_add/freesites/dominatrix+-55-10.jpg) > > ![http://www.popularpages.net/pics/dominatrix_2_1311_si.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/4/d/4d5858766b84828df2d559fb26db3f24be1396b3.jpeg) I can’t see your pics…but are they pictures of retarded looking straight people in a straight pride parade trying to make everybody aware that staright people exist? **edit:** copied/pasted the link. **REALLY WALTER?** publically concealed dominatrics pictures are your argument as a comparison to a gay pride parade that marches throught the open streets of a city that apparently carries no message other then “we are gay and we exist”… or should i say “We’re here and we’re queer!”? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/172 "2009-12-04T08:28:49Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > What rights do gays lack? marriage? Marital benefits for insurance, right to the estate if their partner is deceased (if no will was provided), governmental benefits for married couples, marital benefits given to spouses by the armed services, the list goes on… ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/173 "2009-12-04T08:35:32Z")
If a couple goes and gets married in California, is it then not recognized in NYS if they live here? ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/174 "2009-12-04T08:37:29Z")
Cali just banned gay marriage a short while ago. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/175 "2009-12-04T08:51:57Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > I can’t see your pics…but are they pictures of retarded looking straight people in a straight pride parade trying to make everybody aware that staright people exist? > > **edit:** copied/pasted the link. **REALLY WALTER?** publically concealed dominatrics pictures are your argument as a comparison to a gay pride parade that marches throught the open streets of a city that apparently carries no message other then “we are gay and we exist”… or should i say “We’re here and we’re queer!”? In the past gay pride parades served a purpose, but now they seem superlative. It’s part of a subculture that many gay people don’t choose to participate in, but they represent the entire group when they parade. I don’t really mind as it doesn’t really affect me - my strong and charming personality is all I need. 😉 Anyway, why would somebody who is secure with their sexuality actually care? ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/176 "2009-12-04T08:58:51Z")
I just do not understand why some people take it so personally what others do with their lives. I feel terrible that people can truly love each other but society denies them the ability to have their commitment recognized. ---
**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/177 "2009-12-04T09:03:52Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > I just do not understand why some people take it so personally what others do with their lives. I feel terrible that people can truly love each other but society denies them the ability to have their commitment recognized. INSECURITY ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/178 "2009-12-04T09:09:18Z")
> [@LAFENGAS](#): > > I can’t see your pics…but are they pictures of retarded looking straight people in a straight pride parade trying to make everybody aware that staright people exist? > > **edit:** copied/pasted the link. **REALLY WALTER?** publically concealed dominatrics pictures are your argument as a comparison to a gay pride parade that marches throught the open streets of a city that apparently carries no message other then “we are gay and we exist”… or should i say “We’re here and we’re queer!”? REALLY JOSH, you don’t think there are similar events for perverse straight people? [http://tinyurl.com/yfjmrfv](http://tinyurl.com/yfjmrfv) [http://tinyurl.com/yf3zaul](http://tinyurl.com/yf3zaul) [http://tinyurl.com/dp82s](http://tinyurl.com/dp82s) [http://tinyurl.com/yj7os4f](http://tinyurl.com/yj7os4f) etc Just because you don’t particularly care to see a man in a bikini, doesn’t mean that it is any more offensive than a woman in a bikini. I’m sure at any given time there are more scantily clad women than gay men out on the streets. And what I did really wasn’t all that different than what you did. You took a picture that represents a small percentage of the people at a pride parade and used it to categorize the whole event :shrug: Heck, most of the people in the pride parades I’ve been too were straight. ---
**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/179 "2009-12-04T09:18:07Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Just because you don’t particularly care to see a man in a bikini, doesn’t mean that it is any more offensive than a woman in a bikini. I’m sure at any given time there are more scantily clad women than gay men out on the streets. This is a very poor argument. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806/180 "2009-12-04T09:21:23Z")
> [@Avatar](#): > > This is a very poor argument. this is a very poor criticism. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/way-to-go-nys-senate-gay-marriage/76806.md?page=10)