# We can no longer argue with Ilya about Infiniti M-cars to be perfect.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 12, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070 "2012-06-12T19:06:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/21 "2012-06-13T09:18:09Z")
> [@How do you dispose of....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-you-dispose-of/49889/21): > > Probably because they assume skinny Asians will drive their cars :lol > > And again, the guy is auto crossing a non-sport M with a soft ass suspension. Nothing ‘sub par’ about it. That model isn’t made for that. That’s like autocrossing an A8 instead of an S8. It’s not autocrossing. People can drive whatever they want on track. I’ve seen A4/A6/A8s, my Legacy GT, Honda CRZs, Honda CRXs, Ford 500s, etc… No Infinitis are really made for any track driving lol. ---
**Author:** ![RTrac1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rtrac1/32/6312_2.png) [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/22 "2012-06-13T09:31:27Z")
I saw a toyota matrix at a track day once. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/23 "2012-06-13T09:48:58Z")
> [@Want (S60R inside)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/want-s60r-inside/49891/10): > > I saw a toyota matrix at a track day once. Yea, even those piles can go tracking! :lol ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/24 "2012-06-13T15:07:04Z")
> [@Me vs. darkstar OLD !!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/me-vs-darkstar-old/49888/15): > > WTF? Who said they were perfect? I have claimed and still claim that they are no worse (and in some cases are actually better) than the competition (BMW, Audi, Lexus, MB, etc.). > > Anyhow, what were you saying again Cossey? I can’t seem to hear you over the sound of Mark Webber doin work in a new stock M37S. Way to post a pic of non-sport model though :tbu > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSiRunIE84A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSiRunIE84A) > > Or Vettel on an FX (not an M - but another Infiniti that you probably think is a POS): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVTvqYdp4U&feature=relmfu](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVTvqYdp4U&feature=relmfu) > > Or this: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r\_xT5oQCfo&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r_xT5oQCfo&feature=related) > > So…ugh…what were you saying again? Point is…these cars are in no way, shape, or form worse than the competitors when equipped in the same manner (sport suspension - etc.) Please stop playing defense for your dumb car. Sincerely, The Internet ---
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/25 "2012-06-13T18:24:27Z")
> [@Looky what I found.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/looky-what-i-found/49880/8): > > That would be the sub par materials used in building Infinity’s suspension you’re seeing 🤣rofl I want springs, wheels, and paddle shifters then Im hitting track day. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/26 "2012-06-13T20:16:36Z")
> [@3-Series lovin ...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-series-lovin/49870/25): > > 🤣rofl > > I want springs, wheels, and paddle shifters then Im hitting track day. Well you know who to get a hold of for any tips and help along the way. I’ll extend my help to anyone on this forum if they’re serious about doing a track day. It’s a great sport with a lot of good people, and you’ll learn more about yourself and your car than you ever will in other arenas. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/27 "2012-06-13T20:41:25Z")
I’d love to spectate a track day. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff_k/32/6431_2.png) [@Jeff\_K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff_K)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/28 "2012-06-13T20:41:43Z")
driving on a track is for homos, that explains why there is an infiniti, real men drive flat out on the street ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/29 "2012-06-13T20:44:36Z")
With the seat reclined and the a/c on. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/30 "2012-06-14T05:01:26Z")
> [@new buffalo metal band](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-buffalo-metal-band/49884/7): > > Is Benny driving that car above? Seems to be leaning to one side quite a bit… No I think it’s the 5k curb weight and shitty suspension doing that all by itself. That’s me. ---
**Author:** ![srads13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@srads13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/srads13)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/31 "2012-06-14T06:05:58Z")
I can see where some of the hate of the Inifniti brand comes from on this site, as it seems like one particular member on this site likes to act like they’re the upper echelon of auto engineering, however I would strongly disagree with saying they’re “junk” cars. Do they belong on a track? Absolutely not. As others have said, BMW, Audis, and MB probably look a hell of alot more comfortable on the track then Infinitis do. I bought my 2005 G35x back in 06 and have put a pretty rough 85,000 miles on it (driving in/around construction sites) over the course of the past years and I’ve had minimal issues with the car since I purchased it. Biggest to date is a new hub assembly and timkin wheel bearing. Point is, I’ve owned the car for 6 years, had little to no issues with it and in general have been very satisifed with my purchase. I know some others on this site have either owned or driven Infinitis and had issues with them or in general just didn’t like them at all. Everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, whether its that you think they’re “junk” or you think they’re great cars. Anyways, I’m not sure why Ilya got all butthurt about this topic, it was very apparent that Cossey was just breaking balls. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisCaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ChrisCaz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ChrisCaz)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/32 "2012-06-14T12:48:35Z")
I still love the way the G sounds. ---
**Author:** ![97cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/c5a1d2/32.png) [@97cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97cavy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/33 "2012-06-15T15:23:57Z")
I’d love to get the cadillac out on the track some day, would be a blast, just not sure how well that tank would handle in the corners being so damn heavy ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070/34 "2012-06-15T17:12:26Z")
> [@Can my work legally do this?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-my-work-legally-do-this/49898/25): > > I can see where some of the hate of the Inifniti brand comes from on this site, as it seems like one particular member on this site likes to act like they’re the upper echelon of auto engineering, however I would strongly disagree with saying they’re “junk” cars. > > Do they belong on a track? Absolutely not. As others have said, BMW, Audis, and MB probably look a hell of alot more comfortable on the track then Infinitis do. > > I bought my 2005 G35x back in 06 and have put a pretty rough 85,000 miles on it (driving in/around construction sites) over the course of the past years and I’ve had minimal issues with the car since I purchased it. Biggest to date is a new hub assembly and timkin wheel bearing. Point is, I’ve owned the car for 6 years, had little to no issues with it and in general have been very satisifed with my purchase. > > I know some others on this site have either owned or driven Infinitis and had issues with them or in general just didn’t like them at all. Everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, whether its that you think they’re “junk” or you think they’re great cars. > > Anyways, I’m not sure why Ilya got all butthurt about this topic, it was very apparent that Cossey was just breaking balls. Nope. Junk. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-can-no-longer-argue-with-ilya-about-infiniti-m-cars-to-be-perfect/264070.md?page=1)