# We, the people... **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 7, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421 "2008-10-07T11:39:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/81 "2008-10-10T10:26:27Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > No I mean it has much less to do with our entire government than you are making it seem. One would think that about the subprime situation too but Republicans are exploiting that saying the Democrats didn’t do anything to stop it. > [@JClark](#): > > We’ve done fine economically in the last decade up until a year ago. The US grew with the world markets, EVERYONE made a lot of money off China and vice versa. It’s not about making a lot of money. Our economy has slowed vs other countries. > [@JClark](#): > > Lead and poison? WTF are you talking about? Lead = Baby Toys Poison = Huge animal food re-calls. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/82 "2008-10-10T10:27:28Z")
> [@Pants Party](#): > > And as far as our war in Iraq being a waste as you so call it, I have yet to talk to someone who served over there that says it is a waste, so again, you are using a subjective claim to support your opinion. :thumb ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/83 "2008-10-10T11:57:15Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > One would think that about the subprime situation too but Republicans are exploiting that saying the Democrats didn’t do anything to stop it. It’s everyone’s fault. Yeah we got it, you don’t like when the R’s bash the D’s. > It’s not about making a lot of money. Our economy has slowed vs other countries. ?? We have the most mature and most efficient securities market IN THE WORLD. There is no way the US will ever grow to match a developing nation. China is BOOMING and we’re all profiting at the same time. The US has in no way slowed when compared to our peers (Europe, Japan). > Lead = Baby Toys > Poison = Huge animal food re-calls. Do you hate McDonald’s because they sell fatty foods? People are willing to buy these products, there will always be someone to make them for bottom dollar. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/84 "2008-10-10T12:21:44Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > People are willing to buy these products, there will always be someone to make them for bottom dollar. Correct. Too bad those aren’t US. ---
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/85 "2008-10-10T14:23:51Z")
It wont be us because you social democrats have made labor too expensive in the US. ;D I really hope every newborn is brilliant because if all he can do is make cars on an assembly line and flip burgers he wont have a job when he grows up. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/86 "2008-10-10T15:41:33Z")
> [@JClark](#): > > he wont have a job when he grows up. Iraq War will still be going on? I keed I keed. :ninja ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/87 "2008-10-10T16:03:46Z")
Shawn , your just not worthy of my energy. You do not nor will not get my point. You fail to see what that I am not defending the Bushes in my post, and simply want you to shut off the propaganda long enough for an intelligent conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/88 "2008-10-10T18:22:12Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > Shawn , your just not worthy of my energy. You do not nor will not get my point. You fail to see what that I am not defending the Bushes in my post, and simply want you to shut off the propaganda long enough for an intelligent conversation. It’s you’re. Sorry, the Bushisms annoy me. I am not sure what to tell you. I do enjoy reading the typical GOP’er rhetoric and personal insults. :tong I fail to see any intelligent conversation from you EVER on politics. You just get defensive/insulting when someone doesn’t agree with your views. It’s not propaganda. I have plenty of evidence to support why I think GWB is a retard and my views on McCain to write a book. I simply point out the last 8 years and show some Katie C vids of Palin. :lol ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/89 "2008-10-10T22:01:03Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > It’s you’re. Sorry, the Bushisms annoy me. > > I am not sure what to tell you. I do enjoy reading the typical GOP’er rhetoric and personal insults. :tong I fail to see any intelligent conversation from you EVER on politics. You just get defensive/insulting when someone doesn’t agree with your views. > > It’s not propaganda. I have plenty of evidence to support why I think GWB is a retard and my views on McCain to write a book. I simply point out the last 8 years and show some Katie C vids of Palin. :lol My views, just what are my views _these days_ Shawn. I know I can view my taint if I try, how about you? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/90 "2008-10-10T22:14:12Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > My views, just what are my views _these days_ Shawn. I think you are taking it literally. > [@Jammer](#): > > I know I can view my taint if I try, how about you? Hank holding a mirror for you? ---
**Author:** ![Jammer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jammer/32/6349_2.png) [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/91 "2008-10-10T22:24:31Z")
I hold the meter, Hank uses a torch, thats a different game though. Remember the Hindenberg. ---
**Author:** ![cazwrx187](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cazwrx187/32/6388_2.png) [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/92 "2008-10-10T22:25:37Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > I hold the meter, Hank uses a torch, thats a different game though. Remember the Hindenberg. :rofl ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/93 "2008-10-11T07:19:02Z")
here is an article many of you might find interesting. 1999 ny times before the bush administration took office. predicting exactly what is going on today. you can thank the clinton administration for throwing a wrench in the free american market. obviously these changes take time to take effect. in and around 2003 republicans tried to tighten down on fannie may but the dem’s said there was nothing wrong, and it was unnecessary. let capitalism work, because social engineering doesn’t. > **[Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending](https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html)** > > Fannie Mae Corp is easing credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders; move could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers; action, which will begin as pilot program involving 24... ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421/94 "2008-10-11T07:50:51Z")
> [@Jammer](#): > > My views, just what are my views _these days_ Shawn. > > I know I can view my taint if I try, how about you? I almost peed my self and Mike used the google [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/we-the-people/239421.md?page=4)