# Weekend Accident. Azra is Down **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [September 2, 2007, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088 "2007-09-02T11:21:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![3ni2nr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/3ni2nr/32/5587_2.png) [@3ni2nr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/3ni2nr)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/1 "2007-09-02T11:21:26Z")
Well the weekend started off on a sour note. I had already stated what happened, and put some pics up of the aftermath on takeit2thetrack.ca Link: [http://www.takeit2thetrack.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=329](http://www.takeit2thetrack.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=329) First time accident in Canada yo. It occurred at Dupont and Dundas West. I was making a left onto Dupont - From Dundas West. The guy plowed into me. Was in the intersection - wating in the left most lane. Saw the light turn red. I was still in the intersection. 2 cars ran the light - moving in the direction that was opposite to myself. Then, when it appeared safe to clear the intersection, this other guy came right through and causing what you see below: ![http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5259/keithaccidentpicssept12nk2.jpg](http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/5259/keithaccidentpicssept12nk2.jpg) ![http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9607/keithaccidentpicssept12gn0.jpg](http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9607/keithaccidentpicssept12gn0.jpg) If anyone has any advice to offer, I would appreciate it. This one is going to insco’s for sure - The other car involved was a company car. She was in mint condition. A couple of folks on this board saw the car in person - and can endorse that statement. I should have gotten her appraised - so I don’t know how to fight this one out in temrs of proving that Azra was in excellent condition. Wishing she can see the road again… But… Difficult to say. The rails looked okay when I saw under her. Will try to get some photos of that and the tower when next I go to the garage. At this time, she is in a garage of my choice - which is not on the insco list. ---
**Author:** ![Multisynclg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/multisynclg/32/5328_2.png) [@Multisynclg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Multisynclg)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/2 "2007-09-02T11:35:39Z")
honeslty keith, if the insurance company is willing to replace it with a newer vehicle, go out and find a kouki 1997 240sx or something, Even if its fixable, try to get the money for a new car. If worse , comes to worse, I’ll get you everything you need for next to nothing… but hopefully everything goes smoothly. ---
**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/3 "2007-09-02T12:35:49Z")
who was at fault? hope things are ok keith and things turn better for you ---
**Author:** ![G-E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/g-e/32/5546_2.png) [@G-E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/G-E)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/4 "2007-09-02T13:13:18Z")
you’ll probably get a partial at-fault, unsafe left turn, and running a red… it’s just the way it works ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/5 "2007-09-02T13:20:04Z")
the police statement at the scene and the charges laid are the most important things right now ---
**Author:** ![3ni2nr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/3ni2nr/32/5587_2.png) [@3ni2nr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/3ni2nr)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/6 "2007-09-02T13:35:51Z")
> [@Figured id show a SINGLE pic of the turbo SHO project ...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/figured-id-show-a-single-pic-of-the-turbo-sho-project/13902/14): > > honeslty keith, > if the insurance company is willing to replace it with a newer vehicle, > go out and find a kouki 1997 240sx or something, > > Even if its fixable, try to get the money for a new car. > > If worse , comes to worse, I’ll get you everything you need for next to nothing… > > but hopefully everything goes smoothly. Well I am looking at all options. Still somewhat confused. End of the day, I would like to find myself back in a S14… But Hey man, I appreciate everything that you have advised. > [@Flag burning ban shot down again.Can you guess how Hilary voted?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/34): > > who was at fault? > > hope things are ok keith and things turn better for you The police did not disclose anything. The report has me marked as driver #2. And I hope things get better too, thanks bro. > [@Flag burning ban shot down again.Can you guess how Hilary voted?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/flag-burning-ban-shot-down-again-can-you-guess-how-hilary-voted/13890/36): > > you’ll probably get a partial at-fault, unsafe left turn, and running a red… it’s just the way it works Even though I was in the intersection on a green? I was waiting for clear passage… Waited up until the light turned red. From what I saw with my lights - two other drivers rushed the light, followed by the guy who hit me. Even then, it is still a partial? > [@spd-dmn"](#): > > the police statement at the scene and the charges laid are the most important things right now Well, to my knowledge, no charges were laid at the scene. I gave the officer a detailed play-by-play of what I was doing. Forgive me if anything may sound unclear ---
**Author:** ![veloz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/veloz/32/5586_2.png) [@veloz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/veloz)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/7 "2007-09-02T14:08:05Z")
even if the police decide the your were not at fault, insurance company COULD put you at fault. Especially since it seems you were making a Left Hand Turn. You might have to hire a lawyer to keep your record clean if they accuse you. EDIT: Accidents stay on record for 6 years. ---
**Author:** ![simplemind7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@simplemind7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/simplemind7)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/8 "2007-09-02T14:38:06Z")
exact same thing happened to me before, it should have been an improper left turn for me, running a red light for her, but the officer said he was feeling “in the christmas spirit” so he didn’t charge either of us. insurance considered me 100% at fault though. the system sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Lucidsnow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lucidsnow/32/5538_2.png) [@Lucidsnow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lucidsnow)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/9 "2007-09-02T23:19:00Z")
-whoever does the turning is ALWAYS at fault because you can ONLY proceed when safe to do so… if their speeding ur way running the red u should not have proceeded… -thats why theres those lines in intersection in downtown toronto… if u are in it at red u get a ticket. also when doing ur G2 or G test or learning instructor, u can remain behind the line until it is clear, you do not need to advance pass the line. if u pass the line and it turns red u fail. –sorry thats how things are… i hope u dont get a ticket at fault since its NOT ur fault… and ur car is totalled by the looks of insurance. but if u repair urself and get parts here and there it cant be that bad if frame is still good, still gota pull the front end tho…maybe fixable total 1600$ without paint matching? gl i hope u get all ur money back for the car and buy back and part it out ---
**Author:** ![240sxfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/dec6dc/32.png) [@240sxfan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240sxfan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/10 "2007-09-03T07:57:20Z")
Sorry to say but you are at 100% at fault (as the insurance sees it) The person making the left turn is always 100% at fault unless you have a witness statement saying that he completely blew the red light and plowed into you. Sad but true. Sorry about your car, hope you are fine. ---
**Author:** ![pearlS13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e68b1a/32.png) [@pearlS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pearlS13)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/11 "2007-09-03T09:22:18Z")
As much as it sucks they’ll probably charge you as partially at fault if not fully. A friend of mine was involved in a similar accident to this…he was in the intersection making a left, the light turned red, he thought it was safe to go and BAM he gets smoked by a car. He got charged with making an unsafe turn even though the light was red when he got hit. ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/12 "2007-09-04T09:15:28Z")
shit man, thats rough… I smell a part out, because it sure dosen’t look salvagable… they likely could pull that out, but I highly doubt it would ever be right… ---
**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/weekend-accident-azra-is-down/109088/13 "2007-09-04T10:20:45Z")
Stupid red light runners. Especially when they see someone in the intersection they know is waiting to turn. But alas, life \> car. All the best man.