# Well guys...it's done for real now.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 10, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876 "2008-09-10T22:09:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hooked\_on\_240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Hooked\_on\_240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hooked_on_240)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/121 "2008-09-11T22:04:03Z")

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> [@jdaniels](#):
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> When running power adders on a “stock” motor, there is barely ever a 100% safe configuration. Don’t discredit Synapse right away, any number of things could have happened whether it be a stuck injector, or failing fuel pump etc etc etc. Do you log your fuel pressure, injector duty cycle and AFR constantly? Does the car still actively go into closed loop, or is it in permanent open loop? Have you eaten enough hamburgers this month? Do you have a problem with an old man? Are you always wearing pants while driving?

last 3…

Yes no and yes

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**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/122 "2008-09-11T22:06:49Z")

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JOEY  
PMed!

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/123 "2008-09-12T06:03:24Z")

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I wouldnt go as far as jumping ontop of it and blaiming synapse right away…

how long since you have ever had spray on it, have you been spraying without a proper tune? it goes back into my early V6 days which was almost 2 years ago…2 years of untuned spray will do a beating…and once the damage has been started, its hard not to finish it off even with the proper tune.

Morgan knows what hes doing. Hes a professional at it…I wouldn’t blame it on him, as of yet.

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/124 "2008-09-12T07:40:49Z")

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> [@SSmokinn SS](#):
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> I wouldnt go as far as jumping ontop of it and blaiming synapse right away…
> 
> how long since you have ever had spray on it, have you been spraying without a proper tune? it goes back into my early V6 days which was almost 2 years ago…2 years of untuned spray will do a beating…and once the damage has been started, its hard not to finish it off even with the proper tune.
> 
> Morgan knows what hes doing. Hes a professional at it…I wouldn’t blame it on him, as of yet.

ok a little 35 wet shot, then for a short time 50 wet shot fogger is NOT going to do any damage. This was in the early days of the K20 late last year…It was only built Last September, so i don’t know where you got 2 years ago from.

I put the direct port on, went through a bottle, maybe two…NEVER did i go through ANY spark plugs, then all of a sudden i get tuned and go through 2 full sets of Iradium 8’s and then 2 Super Iradium 9’s?!? Specifically for nitrous applications! I don’t know how the fuck that happens. It should NOT be blowing through that many spark plugs, Oh and i don’t want to hear what happens to Tony’s either, he has a 150 shot and blew ONE plug and damaged a piston. My pistons aren’t damaged, but my valves are FUCKED from plugs blowing apart which should not happen. My trans am, it runs awesome with a 125 shot, no skipping, no plugs have blown off and i’ve gone through about 4 bottles in that. Couldn’t even get through a full bottle with the Civic without blowing plugs, it just shouldn’t happen…maybe once in a while, not every fucking time i spray.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/125 "2008-09-12T08:21:31Z")

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are the ECU’s/KPro an adaptive unit, or are they like an AEM where what you set is al you get? like my car adjusts through the IAT, MAP and MAF for air density and temprature and change the timing and fueling values to go along with those changes. could be too cold out right now and the car is leaning out from the cooler, denser air after being tuned in a warm setting. if thats the case its still got nothing to do with morgan, and it should be re calibrated for the changes, or just take it easy when its not an ideal, warmer day for the tune

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**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/126 "2008-09-12T08:42:22Z")

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As far as I knew it had damaged plug one time, I didn’t know it kept happening. Each engine reacts differently to nitrous, and the plug tells you whats going on inside the cylinder. If it blows apart its obviously getting too hot. If you want Joey i’ll help you take the engine apart and fix it.

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/127 "2008-09-12T09:28:02Z")

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> [@SDP](#):
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> As far as I knew it had damaged plug one time, I didn’t know it kept happening. Each engine reacts differently to nitrous, and the plug tells you whats going on inside the cylinder. If it blows apart its obviously getting too hot. If you want Joey i’ll help you take the engine apart and fix it.

Word. :thumb

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/128 "2008-09-12T09:56:42Z")

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That is a hell of an offer Paul

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/129 "2008-09-12T10:06:24Z")

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> [@K20powerz](#):
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> Ok Sienafest is once a year at the end of the school year…not every weekend :nuts
> 
> GTFO

You’ll see… :banana

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**Author:** ![lconrad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lconrad/32/6314_2.png) [@lconrad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/lconrad)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/130 "2008-09-12T10:14:20Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> are the ECU’s/KPro an adaptive unit, or are they like an AEM where what you set is al you get? like my car adjusts through the IAT, MAP and MAF for air density and temprature and change the timing and fueling values to go along with those changes. could be too cold out right now and the car is leaning out from the cooler, denser air after being tuned in a warm setting. if thats the case its still got nothing to do with morgan, and it should be re calibrated for the changes, or just take it easy when its not an ideal, warmer day for the tune

i know thats how my car runs…the last time i ran at the track it was to cold for the tune…bitch was running lean all over the place…even with 120+ oct fuel…

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/131 "2008-09-12T10:20:54Z")

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![http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/2850573357_f8de305ed4.jpg?v=0](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/2850573357_f8de305ed4.jpg?v=0) :ohnoes :wow :eek :runaway

not as bad as i anticipated, i always look towards the worst possible outcome when gauging issues with my car.

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**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/132 "2008-09-12T10:24:38Z")

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> [@chris88z24](#):
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> You’ll see… :banana

stop hyping up siena as the party king of the area… they aren’t even close :nod

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**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/133 "2008-09-12T10:31:05Z")

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> [@SDP](#):
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> As far as I knew it had damaged plug one time, I didn’t know it kept happening. Each engine reacts differently to nitrous, and the plug tells you whats going on inside the cylinder. If it blows apart its obviously getting too hot. If you want Joey i’ll help you take the engine apart and fix it.

Good guy right there! :number1

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/134 "2008-09-12T10:43:08Z")

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> [@K20powerz](#):
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> ok a little 35 wet shot, then for a short time 50 wet shot fogger is NOT going to do any damage. This was in the early days of the K20 late last year…It was only built Last September, so i don’t know where you got 2 years ago from.
> 
> I put the direct port on, went through a bottle, maybe two…NEVER did i go through ANY spark plugs, then all of a sudden i get tuned and go through 2 full sets of Iradium 8’s and then 2 Super Iradium 9’s?!? Specifically for nitrous applications! I don’t know how the fuck that happens. It should NOT be blowing through that many spark plugs, Oh and i don’t want to hear what happens to Tony’s either, he has a 150 shot and blew ONE plug and damaged a piston. My pistons aren’t damaged, but my valves are FUCKED from plugs blowing apart which should not happen. My trans am, it runs awesome with a 125 shot, no skipping, no plugs have blown off and i’ve gone through about 4 bottles in that. Couldn’t even get through a full bottle with the Civic without blowing plugs, it just shouldn’t happen…maybe once in a while, not every fucking time i spray.

not sure where you got the information that he damaged a piston…no piston damage.

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**Author:** ![arodracing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@arodracing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/arodracing)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/135 "2008-09-12T10:53:22Z")

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thats why you need to log runs and see whats going on…and make minor changes… :smile

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**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/136 "2008-09-12T11:17:03Z")

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here joey…heres your type of movie

[http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LS1sSC-Saleen-stalled-SRT\_183293.htm](http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LS1sSC-Saleen-stalled-SRT_183293.htm)

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/137 "2008-09-12T11:25:53Z")

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> [@chris88z24](#):
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> You’ll see… :banana

ualbany\>siena when it comes to partying

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/138 "2008-09-12T11:35:38Z")

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> [@Mk4 30R](#):
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> :ohnoes :wow :eek :runaway
> 
> not as bad as i anticipated, i always look towards the worst possible outcome when gauging issues with my car.

what happened there?

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**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/139 "2008-09-12T12:04:24Z")

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> [@votblindub](#):
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> what happened there?

exactly what appears to have happened… it broke. a few times

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**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-guys-its-done-for-real-now/238876/140 "2008-09-12T12:08:51Z")

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Joey

$50 for the seats

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