# Went out for some folding chairs **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 1, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565 "2016-02-01T13:15:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/281 "2016-10-10T12:25:33Z")
Quick update Took a ride out to Rochester to pick up two 16" Firebird ABS wheels. I really don’t plan on taking this car to the drag strip - but I guess if I ever get serious I can stick a drag radial on them. [![https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8661/29940543740_f254b23c26_b.jpg](https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8661/29940543740_f254b23c26_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/MBK7xo)[1003162108](https://flic.kr/p/MBK7xo) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr They fit without any modification - extremely close on the spindle but doesn’t touch. The ball joint dust caps also cleared. Miles of room on the calipers. They look goofy. [![https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5295/30122109582_6c8ea1a8fd_b.jpg](https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5295/30122109582_6c8ea1a8fd_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/MTMFJW)[1004161855](https://flic.kr/p/MTMFJW) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Tiny sized tire (225/60/16) makes for a fun time on the street. [![https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5549/30240836915_cda9cd4743_b.jpg](https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5549/30240836915_cda9cd4743_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/N5hceV)[received\_10103371545198348](https://flic.kr/p/N5hceV) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Installed these as a track-only option - and bedded in on the street. ![https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ZzKhy6eUL.SL1500.jpg](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ZzKhy6eUL._SL1500_.jpg) Amazing braking force when warmed up. but have pretty disappointing cold initial bite. They make a LOT of dust! This is just a few short drives on the street with some aggressive stops/bedding in. [![https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8560/29607606303_f8b86cfc3d_b.jpg](https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8560/29607606303_f8b86cfc3d_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/M7jHQK)[0923161626](https://flic.kr/p/M7jHQK) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8610/29607605963_441a85a66f_b.jpg](https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8610/29607605963_441a85a66f_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/M7jHJT)[0925161846](https://flic.kr/p/M7jHJT) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Took apart the passenger wheel well [![https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5169/30202271446_6a614e93fe_b.jpg](https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5169/30202271446_6a614e93fe_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/N1Sx53)[1009161148](https://flic.kr/p/N1Sx53) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr So I could ship this guy out for a tune over at ECS in NJ. [![https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5211/30122108492_82bc67d306_b.jpg](https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5211/30122108492_82bc67d306_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/MTMFq9)[1009161149](https://flic.kr/p/MTMFq9) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Been running on the stock tune this whole season despite having longtubes, LS6 intake, catless x-pipe, Z06 Ti’s, zip tie modded intake, etc. So, hopefully the car shows some gains as a result of the tuning. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/282 "2016-10-10T12:58:20Z")
nice… what sort of power are you expecting… little under 400? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/283 "2016-10-10T12:59:02Z")
pics of the turbo? ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/284 "2016-10-10T13:12:40Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > nice… what sort of power are you expecting… little under 400? Not sure really. Other guys with this combo generally make around 350whp, so I’d be happy with that. No plans to dyno it before/after, maybe I’ll throw it on the rollers if the Lancaster gang has a fall dyno day. I am really trying to get out to more track/road course days but hate going alone. Also still debating doing a 4.10 gear swap this winter but I think that money would be better spent towards a lower mileage Z06 as those are starting to go up in value. Or I might get bored and say screw it all and go with another project. > [@LZ](#): > > pics of the turbo? ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/285 "2016-10-10T13:33:38Z")
> [@Norb O](#): > > Not sure really. Other guys with this combo generally make around 350whp, so I’d be happy with that. No plans to dyno it before/after, maybe I’ll throw it on the rollers if the Lancaster gang has a fall dyno day. I am really trying to get out to more track/road course days but hate going alone. Also still debating doing a 4.10 gear swap this winter but I think that money would be better spent towards a lower mileage Z06 as those are starting to go up in value. Or I might get bored and say screw it all and go with another project. Oh snap seriously? Congrats! ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/286 "2016-10-10T13:44:43Z")
Lol not yet but soon. Probably next year ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/287 "2017-01-09T06:08:04Z")
found some pics on my camera from a month or two ago… Original tail light lenses had seen much wear. [![https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/272/31823613980_bf8409eb9c_b.jpg](https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/272/31823613980_bf8409eb9c_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/Qu9kHE)[\_DSC7559](https://flic.kr/p/Qu9kHE) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr So out they came for some TLC with the polisher. [![https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/430/32080814241_52092cba86_b.jpg](https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/430/32080814241_52092cba86_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QSSyoV)[\_DSC7561](https://flic.kr/p/QSSyoV) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/660/32080799281_34eef89b48_b.jpg](https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/660/32080799281_34eef89b48_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QSStWZ)[\_DSC7562](https://flic.kr/p/QSStWZ) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/509/32050401382_a19ff423ee_b.jpg](https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/509/32050401382_a19ff423ee_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QQbFHh)[\_DSC7588](https://flic.kr/p/QQbFHh) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr I swear this stuff is magical, here are some befores and afters. [![https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/465/31388844383_3d04874317_b.jpg](https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/465/31388844383_3d04874317_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/PPJ2S8)[\_DSC7573](https://flic.kr/p/PPJ2S8) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/568/32199079955_9861643511_b.jpg](https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/568/32199079955_9861643511_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/R4jGEX)[\_DSC7575](https://flic.kr/p/R4jGEX) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/665/32199057095_13ddb8da4e_b.jpg](https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/665/32199057095_13ddb8da4e_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/R4jzSP)[\_DSC7578](https://flic.kr/p/R4jzSP) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Gave it a whirl on the LED 3rd brake light too. [![https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/778/31388857813_501164ca54_b.jpg](https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/778/31388857813_501164ca54_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/PPJ6RF)[\_DSC7572](https://flic.kr/p/PPJ6RF) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr I built a cabin partition that separates the passenger area from the “trunk” out of MDF and covered it in carpet material. It stops all my stuff from flying around and also reduces the noise from the exhaust/rear tire wells. [![https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/581/32199043865_40fbd736a6_b.jpg](https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/581/32199043865_40fbd736a6_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/R4jvWH)[\_DSC7581](https://flic.kr/p/R4jvWH) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/443/32199027245_2e8021d6fe_b.jpg](https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/443/32199027245_2e8021d6fe_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/R4jr1a)[\_DSC7582](https://flic.kr/p/R4jr1a) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/671/32199010395_3263c203a6_b.jpg](https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/671/32199010395_3263c203a6_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/R4jkZD)[\_DSC7586](https://flic.kr/p/R4jkZD) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Installed a trailer hitch I had bought over the summer [![https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5570/31362846265_260eb52fc7_b.jpg](https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5570/31362846265_260eb52fc7_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/PMqMwH)[1125162001](https://flic.kr/p/PMqMwH) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr and had to make sure it worked correctly. [![https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5782/31362844075_1dbeb66dae_b.jpg](https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5782/31362844075_1dbeb66dae_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/PMqLSX)[1126161540](https://flic.kr/p/PMqLSX) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5469/31248046161_ddf27ce6b4_b.jpg](https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5469/31248046161_ddf27ce6b4_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/PBhpsz)[1126161540b](https://flic.kr/p/PBhpsz) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr I am planning on some upgrades to the rear diff over the winter and might change up the exhaust as well. Still keeping the cutouts, might try a new location for them to reduce drone when they’re open. We shall see. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/288 "2017-01-09T12:51:18Z")
Love the trailer hook :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/289 "2017-01-19T10:47:51Z")
Disregard ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/290 "2017-01-19T11:48:32Z")
I too love the trailer hitch on a car you would not expect to see it on… :tup: ---
**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/291 "2017-01-19T12:27:35Z")
@Norb_O it may just be me but the picture links in your latest post are dead. FYI ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/292 "2017-01-19T17:10:04Z")
![https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCIazBys1l0fQHgc0XKi6n8tsWLwU3zFz3ZpTSKi96Yfi33t3Jow](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCIazBys1l0fQHgc0XKi6n8tsWLwU3zFz3ZpTSKi96Yfi33t3Jow) Started my annual winter project of “take a perfectly good running vehicle and take it apart” [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/329/32412267395_d2d36ea452_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/329/32412267395_d2d36ea452_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/RoakSt)[0114171752](https://flic.kr/p/RoakSt) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Midpipes and exhaust removed. Now on to 36 of these little bastards. Thank god for power tools. Stiffening plate was not as stiff as I imagined it would be. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/339/31569768314_b80de5864b_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/339/31569768314_b80de5864b_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/Q6Hjff)[0115171250a](https://flic.kr/p/Q6Hjff) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Begin the parts pile. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5786/31569754044_f717236f45_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5786/31569754044_f717236f45_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/Q6Hf1d)[0115171808](https://flic.kr/p/Q6Hf1d) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr No pictures of the physical removal of the drivetrain, but it came out pretty easily. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/429/32262019062_2629e7fd2b_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/429/32262019062_2629e7fd2b_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/R9ThgY)[0115171808a](https://flic.kr/p/R9ThgY) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Note the generous amounts of kitty litter on the ground. Gotta drain diff fluid before dropping assy next time. When the axles get pulled out of the trans, and you wiggle the whole thing side to side, she tends to puke out the oil. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/308/32034798320_44b8107e90_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/308/32034798320_44b8107e90_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QNNHsY)[0115171808b](https://flic.kr/p/QNNHsY) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr It’s beyond me how some of this junk ended up on top of the diff, short of being deposited by a critter. All components will get scrubbed before going back in the car. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/704/32034793760_e12565f323_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/704/32034793760_e12565f323_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QNNG7m)[0115171808c](https://flic.kr/p/QNNG7m) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Separated the diff/torque tube/trans from the subframe - it’s only held together with 2 bolts. The centrally located diff mount does a very poor job of holding a rigid connection between the subframe and drivetrain. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/421/32291957161_799849b094_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/421/32291957161_799849b094_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/RcwHQ6)[0115171814](https://flic.kr/p/RcwHQ6) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr I don’t want solid mounts in this car so one of these is definitely in my future ![http://www.shop.hoosierpe.com/images/1410202830377-1947075288.jpeg](http://www.shop.hoosierpe.com/images/1410202830377-1947075288.jpeg) ![http://www.shop.hoosierpe.com/images/14102028387451569592303.jpeg](http://www.shop.hoosierpe.com/images/14102028387451569592303.jpeg) So we finally have all this junk [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/542/31601162583_5519b53a51_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/542/31601162583_5519b53a51_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/Q9udEK)[0115171814a](https://flic.kr/p/Q9udEK) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/545/32291953621_2aca466e97_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/545/32291953621_2aca466e97_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/RcwGM4)[0117171935](https://flic.kr/p/RcwGM4) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr Tucked away so wife can have her spot back until parts start coming in. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/282/32034780460_1d92c7d412_b.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/282/32034780460_1d92c7d412_b.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QNNCa3)[0117172003](https://flic.kr/p/QNNCa3) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr The plan right now is an LS7 clutch combo, torque tube rebuild (guibos, bearings), and a 4.10 diff (either send my stocker out or get my hands on a DTE built unit). Anything that doesn’t look ok will get replaced with OEM or better parts. I’ll probably end up modifying the C6Z06 shifter to have no slop as well - the lower box bushings wear out over time. Already have the Tick clutch MC but I’ll replace the slave with a new OEM and throw in a remote bleeder too. If I really get bored I can investigate the T56 internal centering detents - the 1-2 position snaps back to neutral just fine, but the 5-6 stays put in between those gates unless you snap back to 3-4. The external linkage to the T56 also has some tiny amount of slop in it, but that translates to much more when you multiply by the length of the shifter. I guess I was just spoiled by BMW shifters in the past. ---
**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/293 "2017-01-19T19:16:06Z")
Looking good Norb. If you ever need a 3rd or 4th hand let me know. I always have some cold beer also. ---
**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/294 "2017-01-20T07:17:37Z")
Nice! :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/295 "2017-01-20T15:26:33Z")
> [@llink78](#): > > Looking good Norb. If you ever need a 3rd or 4th hand let me know. I always have some cold beer also. @llink78 come over any time. I still think you should buy my Firecat. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/296 "2017-01-20T15:35:05Z")
I too have lots of beer that needs drinking… ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/297 "2017-01-28T07:54:37Z")
I actually did a refurb on the C6Z lower box when I bought it used, before even installing it in the car for the first time. It needed a thorough cleaning and lubrication, and that did help the general smoothness of the action, but didn’t do anything for the sloppiness. Here is my train of thought and plan of attack: The plastic bushings that hold the “yoke” shaft have a 1/16" of slop in them which translates to play in the shift knob when in neutral, or any gear really. They will be replaced with either delrin or bronze bushings that will provide a much more solid “hold” on the shaft. The C6 Upper box looked to be fine. I found that the black “cup” that rides in the lower “receiver” has no slop and moves very freely. With the entire drivetrain removed from the car (minus engine), the shift linkage (with no shifter attached) still does not spring back from 5-6 to center. This rules out the shifter as causing my centering issue, although the shifter still contributes to the slop. I bolted the shifter assembly back onto the torque tube to visualize what the shift linkage was doing, and chase down the slop. This video shows the bushing wear in the lower box. The left to right wiggling of the shift knob/lever at the end of the video has no effect on movement of components in the trans - it’s all slop in the joint at the rear bellhousing! Any similar front/rear movement of the shift knob/lever has equal slop that is a result of the worn bushings inside the lower box. There is also lots of play evident in the joint assembly right before the shift linkage enters the transmission. It looks to be held together with roll pins, I have not yet disassembled that area. Of course I COULD purchase a (relatively) expensive aftermarket shifter such as MGW, Hinson, Kirban that has internal centering springs, but I feel that they are somewhat of a band aid to the pre-existing condition inside the transmission. They also tend to be very stiff and the throw is excessively short, which makes the effort go way up. I drive my car 99% on the street with a couple track days a year so an easy, low effort throw is important. So the final list of suspects, working towards the back of the car: C6 Lower box mount bushings (that mount the box to the torque tube) - non issue. These are solid on my C6Z shifter. No movement. C6 Lower box shaft bushings - cause shifter sloppiness. Plan to install new bronze bushings custom sized to my yoke, press fit into box. Not too bad of a job, will require some machining. T56 Shift linkage to trans - cause shifter sloppiness. Need to investigate, there looks to be a brass bushing inside a mini u-joint that is worn. C5 T56 internal centering spring - causes shifter not to snap back to neutral from the 5-6 gate (in my case). Again, an aftermarket shifter might help, but I want to get to the root cause. I initially thought this might be caused by the fore-aft detent ball that rides on top of the shift gate (NOT the detent ball that is altered by the anti-venom mod) So I mounted up my T56 on the worktable. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/560/32157956600_cdb3843a8d_h.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/560/32157956600_cdb3843a8d_h.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/QZFW8A)[0125171925](https://flic.kr/p/QZFW8A) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr After pulling the rear tail housing case I visually verified that the shift detent ball wasn’t binding up. This is not my picture, just an example of the guide plate that the lower detent ball rides in. I can’t get the shift rail block off yet to verify if the ball is physically free, but that will come later. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/bill327/CIMG1697.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/bill327/CIMG1697.jpg) According to Bill Curlee: "There is a U shaped spring on the bottom plate that returns the shifter back to the center: " Through the process of elimination, this must be what is causing my shifter not to return back to center. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/bill327/CIMG1710.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/bill327/CIMG1710.jpg) Tailhousing off. [![https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/410/32384464662_027f9bcb87_h.jpg](https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/410/32384464662_027f9bcb87_h.jpg)](https://flic.kr/p/RkGR61)[0125171930](https://flic.kr/p/RkGR61) by [Norbert Ogiba](https://www.flickr.com/photos/nogiba/), on Flickr I don’t know if someone has gone through this trans in its life, but the buildup on the magnets didn’t look TOO bad for 115k. I will be removing and cleaning these prior to reassembly. For what it’s worth, I did replace the trans fluid with Dexron III ATF 1 year and 10K miles ago, and it looked brand new while draining. That’s where I left off for the night, my snap ring pliers were not big enough to handle the rings on the reverse shaft. More to come tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/298 "2017-01-28T14:16:09Z")
Nice work! I’m jealous. I wish I had the time to dig into that kind of stuff. My 99 Silverado really needs a turbo kit. LOL You’re a brave man pulling that trans apart. That is usually where I give up and pay someone to do that work. X… ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/299 "2017-01-28T15:28:15Z")
There is nothing Norb cant do when fueled by PBR and dark liquor. ---
**Author:** ![Norb\_O](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/norb_o/32/5189_2.png) [@Norb\_O](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Norb_O)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565/300 "2017-01-30T08:17:05Z")
> [@Xander](#): > > Nice work! > > I’m jealous. I wish I had the time to dig into that kind of stuff. My 99 Silverado really needs a turbo kit. LOL > > You’re a brave man pulling that trans apart. That is usually where I give up and pay someone to do that work. > > X… Taking things apart is easy, putting it back together without leftover pieces is not… My rationale was that the transmission really didn’t need a rebuild, just a couple things replaced inside like that centering spring. I found some broken nylon shift fork pads too so those will get replaced with bronze. Not going to touch too much else. Definitely not interested in setting clearances or any crap like that. I sent out my stock 3.42 diff yesterday to be gone through and have 4.10s installed. Now THAT, I didn’t wanna touch, lol. Too many chances for noise/whining/broken gears. > [@2TurboZ](#): > > There is nothing Norb cant do when fueled by PBR and dark liquor. Sure there is, just ask my wife. I’m just trying to keep up with whatever 2 tone pile you buy next! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/went-out-for-some-folding-chairs/273565.md?page=16)