# WG Bolts Backing Out?
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [July 15, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422 "2007-07-15T23:16:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/1 "2007-07-15T23:16:20Z")
i got back to the shop tonight after a day of abuse. couple hours of tuning (thanks partner, chook), then a little racing/cruising. little cruise up to the border and back, which sucked ass btw.
on the way back i get on it a couple times…acting kind of wierd. poppy, etc.
get back to my shop, hear some leakage… open the hood and see BOTH of my WG bolts have backed out. they are bolted from the top no less. my WG was only held in place by the dump tube. its almost as if someone is fucking with me. the bolt holes do not go all the way through to the manifold, so you can rule air psi agains the bolts out. i am not wasting too much air… the only thing i can think of is too much BP on the engine side. but why would that happen just now?
is there another reason this could have happened? these bolts do NOT easily go in, they screw in VERY solid. should/can i locktite them?
WTF PeOpLe?!?
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### Author:  [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/2 "2007-07-16T00:03:57Z")
Why not locktite them? use the blue locktite as its not as permanent as the red? ( i think)
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/3 "2007-07-16T00:34:26Z")
safety wire them?
[http://www.emra.ca/Tech%20Tips/Tech%20Tips.htm](http://www.emra.ca/Tech%20Tips/Tech%20Tips.htm)
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### Author:  [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/4 "2007-07-16T00:36:14Z")
im supposed to be the motorcycle dude… lol… yea… safety wire is the better way… if u need somebody with the tool, i can probably find one for you
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### Author:  [@TurdBlown\_Teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurdBlown_Teg)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/5 "2007-07-16T01:48:17Z")
also use lock washers thats what fixed my problem. my WG bolts used to always come out daily. try that and some locktite.
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### Author:  [@TRP951](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TRP951)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/6 "2007-07-16T05:00:50Z")
happened on my Tial and I lockwashered them and locktited them
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### Author:  [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/7 "2007-07-16T05:05:17Z")
[quote=“newman,post:3,topic:32422"”]
safety wire them?
[http://www.emra.ca/Tech%20Tips/Tech%20Tips.htm](http://www.emra.ca/Tech%20Tips/Tech%20Tips.htm)
[/quote]
lol, and it even shows the pig tails, kind of a crappy safety wire job though… i would suggest going around each bolt a little more… come to think of it… I’m kind of confused how the pigtail is where it is…
edit:
a better representation
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### Author:  [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/8 "2007-07-16T07:10:24Z")
you guys don’t know locktight, not gonna work with the heat.
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### Author:  [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/9 "2007-07-16T07:29:49Z")
Been there. Use lock washers.
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### Author:  [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/10 "2007-07-16T07:35:03Z")
[quote=“Studderin,post:8,topic:32422"”]
you guys don’t know locktight, not gonna work with the heat.
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X2
grade 8 bolts or higher and lockwashers of the same likeness.
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### Author:  [@rdandy5875](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rdandy5875)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2007, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/11 "2007-07-16T08:45:33Z")
I have a safety wire tool if anyone needs to borrow it. you can also get one at HF for around $8.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2007, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/12 "2007-07-17T06:50:41Z")
lock washer.
locktite will not work there
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/13 "2007-07-17T06:55:37Z")
if you’re going to use a lockwasher, i suggest a belleville style.
> **[Belleville washer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belleville_washer)**
>
> A Belleville washer, also known as a coned-disc spring, conical spring washer, disc spring, Belleville spring or cupped spring washer, is a conical shell which can be loaded along its axis either statically or dynamically. A Belleville washer is a type of spring shaped like a washer. It is the frusto-conical shape that gives the washer a spring characteristic. The "Belleville" name comes from the inventor Julien Belleville who in Dunkerque, France, in 1867 patented a spring design which already c...
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/14 "2007-07-17T06:57:07Z")
Newman - even better. i knew we kept you around for a reason.
and, WTF scoobaru??
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### Author:  [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2007, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/15 "2007-07-17T08:28:35Z")
nice… i’ll try those :tup:
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### Author:  [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wg-bolts-backing-out/32422/16 "2007-07-18T07:11:35Z")
stanard split washers always seem to loose their locking abilty with the heat