# what are my management options??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [April 20, 2009, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-my-management-options/243637 "2009-04-20T10:27:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 18
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-my-management-options/243637/18 "2009-04-21T21:07:12Z")
> [@Automotive Pet Peeves](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/automotive-pet-peeves/17218/85): > > on certain applications yes. but on turbocharged honda’s its not a very good one. the stock ecus have no mappings for boost so you are relying completely on the piggy back which only controls fuel. on your ecu shawn the stock ecu is still doing a lot in those boost levels. pulling timing etc. the honda ecu doesnt. at 10psi it still thinks you are at 0psi. Agreed. Certain cars things just work, others don’t. My old dodge was tuned off the stock PCM fuel/timing maps, running a port fuel EIC 8 injector setup(4 primaries, 4 secondaries) and a MAP check valve(synapse engineering piece actually). Car thought it was at 0hg at WOT when actually running 26-28lbs boost, but I got away with it because the thing ran such f-ing retarded timing from the factory to begin with. Just kept throwing fuel and boost at it like a damn diesel until it stopped making power. “CIS” tuned style EFI :lol Those that ran an AFC on the boosted 420a’s blew up, as it masked the PCM from TPS load readings and the car advanced timing thinking it was in a cruise situation(highway). Pop, pistons and rods want to say hello! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-my-management-options/243637)._