# What can kramerbuttz do for you?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [April 13, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501 "2009-04-13T14:55:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/21 "2009-04-14T05:12:18Z")

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Kramerbuttz can’t do shit for you

he fuckin sucks!

j/k :hug

I wub you kramer… I can haz free detail :excited

No really, come take care of my shit before I lock you in the basement forever

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/22 "2009-04-14T05:21:44Z")

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Kramer, does this shit work on carbon fiber hoods? My hood looked fine until I had it parked underneath some trees =p and ever since, it looks like ass.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/23 "2009-04-14T05:36:05Z")

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> [@FS: Bar Stuff / Tools / Snowboards / Butler... Random Stuff](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-bar-stuff-tools-snowboards-butler-random-stuff/17005/9):
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> your pictures suck ass

> [@I like modern cars more than old ones...but...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-like-modern-cars-more-than-old-ones-but/16997/21):
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> He’s using a point and shoot, what do you want… :retardclap

Yup. A 5 y/o Casio 5MP point and shoot 😃

> [@I like modern cars more than old ones...but...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-like-modern-cars-more-than-old-ones-but/16997/22):
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> Kramerbuttz can’t do shit for you  
> he fuckin sucks!  
> j/k :hug  
> I wub you kramer… I can haz free detail :excited  
> No really, come take care of my shit before I lock you in the basement forever

I’ll be getting in touch with you later in the week. You’ll see why later today :shifty

> [@FS: 2000 Ninja Zx-6r... on ebay now](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-ninja-zx-6r-on-ebay-now/17018/2):
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> Kramer, does this shit work on carbon fiber hoods? My hood looked fine until I had it parked underneath some trees =p and ever since, it looks like ass.

If it’s got a good clearcoat on it than it should work beautifully. I’m know a carbon fiber connoisseur so I dunno if they do or not, but if it does, that’s all I’m really working with so it doesn’t matter if there’s paint or uber-light CF underneath it 😃

By the way, I just hit the 500 PM mark on shift518 :excited

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/24 "2009-04-14T05:45:17Z")

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well shit, I dunno man… it looks like the coat is sorta peelin, but it was parked under shade… beneath some trees. So I dont know if treesap or whatever got on it and caked into the coat or what. I dont know shit about this. I’ve washed it, scrubbed it, waxed it… nothing.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/25 "2009-04-14T05:47:44Z")

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> [@Troopers ambushed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/troopers-ambushed/16799/212):
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> well shit, I dunno man… it looks like the coat is sorta peelin, but it was parked under shade… beneath some trees. So I dont know if treesap or whatever got on it and caked into the coat or what. I dont know shit about this. I’ve washed it, scrubbed it, waxed it… nothing.

are you going to be at the april 26th auto X ? if not, ill check it out on may 16-17, unless you want to meet up before then. shoot me a PM or on AIM if you’d like

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**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/26 "2009-04-14T05:55:09Z")

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> [@Even in death, Steve Irwin is more of a bad motherfucker than you'll ever be](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/even-in-death-steve-irwin-is-more-of-a-bad-motherfucker-than-youll-ever-be/16988/32):
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> are you going to be at the april 26th auto X ? if not, ill check it out on may 16-17, unless you want to meet up before then. shoot me a PM or on AIM if you’d like

No April 26th, I still have some things to get done with my car. I’ll shoot you a message on AIM when I get my car back.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/27 "2009-04-14T05:57:43Z")

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> [@Major U.S. oil source is tapped](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/major-u-s-oil-source-is-tapped/16991/13):
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> No April 26th, **I still have some things to get done with my car.** I’ll shoot you a message on AIM when I get my car back.

don’t we all :lol

sounds good :thumbup

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/28 "2009-04-14T06:38:44Z")

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I cant believe how bad that paint is, did you use a yellow pad? I cant imagine a orange would do much.

Black car, those swirls, $100 bucks? WTF get outta town, no thanks.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/29 "2009-04-14T06:44:58Z")

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> [@Even in death, Steve Irwin is more of a bad motherfucker than you'll ever be](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/even-in-death-steve-irwin-is-more-of-a-bad-motherfucker-than-youll-ever-be/16988/36):
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> I cant believe how bad that paint is, did you use a yellow pad? I cant imagine a orange would do much.
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> Black car, those swirls, $100 bucks? WTF get outta town, no thanks.

The pad I’m using for the polishes (works flawlessly):

[http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/orbitals+and+car+polishing+tools/orange+foam+polishing+pad.do](http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/orbitals+and+car+polishing+tools/orange+foam+polishing+pad.do)

And my wax:

[http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+waxing/orbitals+and+car+waxing+tools/red+wax+pad.do](http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+waxing/orbitals+and+car+waxing+tools/red+wax+pad.do)

and yeah, i know… it’s definitely on the cheap side for this job. it just makes it a lot easier and less painful though to have a flat rate for this type of detail, even if some cars need a LOT more work than others :lol

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/30 "2009-04-14T06:57:25Z")

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> [@dad finally bought his mustang](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dad-finally-bought-his-mustang/17020/4):
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> The pad I’m using for the polishes (works flawlessly):
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> [http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/orbitals+and+car+polishing+tools/orange+foam+polishing+pad.do](http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/orbitals+and+car+polishing+tools/orange+foam+polishing+pad.do)
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> And my wax:
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> [http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+waxing/orbitals+and+car+waxing+tools/red+wax+pad.do](http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+waxing/orbitals+and+car+waxing+tools/red+wax+pad.do)
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> and yeah, i know… it’s definitely on the cheap side for this job. it just makes it a lot easier and less painful though to have a flat rate for this type of detail, even if some cars need a LOT more work than others :lol

IMO, you should use a couple stages here. I’m not telling you what to do, I’m just trying to heed some advice.

That car might need a more abrasive yellow pad. Then wack it with the orange. Then wax/etc. Might need a couple stages of polish too.

More props to ya man, that would be $275-$300 for me, I could see 15+ hours on that thing.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/31 "2009-04-14T07:14:31Z")

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> [@yea so kinda new :noob](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yea-so-kinda-new-noob/17023/9):
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> IMO, you should use a couple stages here. I’m not telling you what to do, I’m just trying to heed some advice.
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> That car might need a more abrasive yellow pad. Then wack it with the orange. Then wax/etc. Might need a couple stages of polish too.
> 
> More props to ya man, that would be $275-$300 for me, I could see 15+ hours on that thing.

Oh, no, no problem. I’m not going to turn down advice from someone a lot more experienced than myself :lol

And I’m using Griot’s 4 stage polishing system, if that’s what you want to call it:

[http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/car+polishes/set+of+4+machine+polishes.do](http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/car+polishes/set+of+4+machine+polishes.do)

I’ve yet to meet a clear coat scratch that can’t be nearly eliminated or completely removed with my cute little orange pads, ask turbotravis, a cat had a tourette’s attack on his trunk lid and no one could ever tell now :lol

This car is one of my family’s good friend’s, he’s not looking for anything mindblowing, just to fix the mistakes he made with the shovel/broom/steel wool pad/chainsaw on his paint and to clean it up a little bit, i think he’s trading it in soon, too.

I just don’t have the reputation or customer base yet to fetch the cars and people that would be willing to pay that kind of money for a detail. For example. I’m detailing a late 90’s Chrylser T & C as we speak and a late 90’s Accord later this afternoon. Not all the cars I do are average/above average. I’m slowly working my way up the ranks 😃

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/32 "2009-04-14T07:19:48Z")

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> [@Even in death, Steve Irwin is more of a bad motherfucker than you'll ever be](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/even-in-death-steve-irwin-is-more-of-a-bad-motherfucker-than-youll-ever-be/16988/42):
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> Oh, no, no problem. I’m not going to turn down advice from someone a lot more experienced than myself :lol
> 
> And I’m using Griot’s 4 stage polishing system, if that’s what you want to call it:
> 
> [http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/car+polishes/set+of+4+machine+polishes.do](http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/car+care/car+polishing/car+polishes/set+of+4+machine+polishes.do)
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> I’ve yet to meet a clear coat scratch that can’t be nearly eliminated or completely removed with my cute little orange pads, ask turbotravis, a cat had a tourette’s attack on his trunk lid and no one could ever tell now :lol
> 
> This car is one of my family’s good friend’s, he’s not looking for anything mindblowing, just to fix the mistakes he made with the shovel/broom/steel wool pad/chainsaw on his paint and to clean it up a little bit, i think he’s trading it in soon, too.
> 
> I just don’t have the reputation or customer base yet to fetch the cars and people that would be willing to pay that kind of money for a detail. For example. I’m detailing a late 90’s Chrylser T & C as we speak and a late 90’s Accord later this afternoon. Not all the cars I do are average/above average. I’m slowly working my way up the ranks 😃

No problem. What your using is perfect then. I thought you were only doing one step then a wax, my fault. :rofl

Building up a strong customer base is whats vital. I stopped detailing because I ran out of time and couldn’t do it full time. I have a select few now, but thats it.

I dont think a detailer ever masters his skills, it truly takes a lifetime. The industry is ever changing as well.

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/33 "2009-04-14T07:25:33Z")

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> [@Another tup to Stealtth (part 1)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/another-tup-to-stealtth-part-1/17024/3):
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> No problem. What your using is perfect then. I thought you were only doing one step then a wax, my fault. :rofl
> 
> Building up a strong customer base is whats vital. I stopped detailing because I ran out of time and couldn’t do it full time. I have a select few now, but thats it.
> 
> I dont think a detailer ever masters his skills, it truly takes a lifetime. The industry is ever changing as well.

If someone could find me a single stage polish that worked that well I’d buy $853,346,235 worth of it :lol . I use 1 orange pad for each polish in the 4 stages.

I’m always finding ways to do things quicker, easier and better even after 100+ cars (that’s a lot to a non detailer, but nothing for an experienced detailer). It’s really just a profitable hobby for me at this point, next year, if I expand as much as I have in previous years, I’ll more than likely be filing taxes and getting an insurance policy, just in case. Also, that should allow me to advertise in more high-end forums/locations without issues or reluctancy.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeremiah/32/6318_2.png) [@Jeremiah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeremiah)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/34 "2009-04-14T17:58:34Z")

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> [@Major U.S. oil source is tapped](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/major-u-s-oil-source-is-tapped/16991/13):
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> No April 26th, I still have to have Jeremiah do all of my work for me because I don’t know how to turn a wrench. I’ll shoot you a message on AIM when I get my car back.

Fixed.

Anywho…great work Ryan.

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-can-kramerbuttz-do-for-you/243501/35 "2009-04-17T06:23:36Z")

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black paint is the best and the worst at the same time

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