# What do people complain about in your office? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 2, 2010, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932 "2010-06-02T11:23:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/41 "2010-06-04T07:51:18Z")
Everyone complains about everything… Being in the engineering dept… most of our bitching is about the manufacturing and operations part of the company… ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/42 "2010-06-04T08:31:28Z")
> [@95dime](#): > > architects. they piss me off with their inability to make up their mind. > > oh and the oce plotters. i hate those damn things. they break down way too much. OMG I LOVE YOU…same shit…our plotter is always f-ing down oh and how shitty Microstation is and how we all want to use REVIT ---
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/43 "2010-06-04T08:45:56Z")
not having enough flair. me. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/44 "2010-06-04T08:52:32Z")
knowledge management ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/45 "2010-06-04T09:00:21Z")
Heh. Management trying to take my red swingline stapler. ---------- Post added at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ---------- [quote=“drvnkd,post:44,topic:155932"”] knowledge management [/quote] lol did you like the presentation? ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/46 "2010-06-04T09:26:24Z")
It’s greeaat. We need more free thinking synergies to get us outside the box and onto a level playing field so we can leverage the competitive advantage ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/47 "2010-06-04T19:36:51Z")
> [@95dime](#): > > architects. they piss me off with their inability to make up their mind. > > oh and the oce plotters. i hate those damn things. they break down way too much. disagree on both counts… engineers always want to wait to start working until everything is finished… it isn’t finished until its built we switched to oce about a year or so ago… way better than xerox… ---------- Post added at 10:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 PM ---------- > [@95dime](#): > > i missed this reply earlier…how far along and what version are you at? ive been using revit mep (for plumbing and fire protection) about 2 years now, i dont mind the program at all now that we figured out how to adjust all the settings and how to make it work well for us, but its still a bit slow. pretty managable though. my biggest gripe is all the extra piping that needs to be modeled versus 2d autocad, but then again the 3d risers were produce are badass and incredible easy to create. going into 2011 in a week… been in it since 2005… which was like version 8 i think and have used all of them up to this point… personally i have no problem with the program… the thread was about what people complain about and that is the case in my office… a lot of people are having trouble switching from 2d… its a microstation office and they even complained going from v8 to xm so they just get set in their ways… our engineers are even worse… we got them into autocad mep so far and some are starting to use revit now… before 2010 it was pointless for MEP though but now it works pretty well… going with my previous comment though the engineers still want there to be a ‘drop the flag’ button so the engineers know when the design is done so they can start… so much for collaborative design ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/48 "2010-06-04T19:38:45Z")
> [@slo ride](#): > > engineers always want to wait to start working until everything is finished… it isn’t finished until its built. Not entirely true. Engineers in R&D are more than happy to spend tens of thousands to see if something “might work” ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/49 "2010-06-04T20:35:21Z")
i’m meaning more in the architecture and engineering world… not the rest of the engineering world… ---
**Author:** ![95dime](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/95dime/32/7514_2.png) [@95dime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95dime)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/50 "2010-06-04T21:27:37Z")
> [@slo ride](#): > > i’m meaning more in the architecture and engineering world… not the rest of the engineering world… i have a perfect example for why i dont like how much the architects change things during a project. the last project we were on ceiling grids got shifted a rediculous amount of times as they went through the ceiling designer, interior designer, main architect, etc and repeat. in autocad, no problem, dont even bother adjusting unless its a considerable amount. in revit, we have to as the architects are chosing to link in our model and use our sprinklers in their ceiling plans instead of creating a duplicate in their model. so if we change our 4000 or so sprinklers in a building to match the ceiling, most likely atleast 75% have to disconnect on the pipe to make the move, and we then have to repipe them. this would be duplicating the time we spend, which we already dont have. we opt not to host the sprinklers to the ceiling as this would make the changes even larger and instead host to a ref. plane. we tried keeping up with this until we said the hell with it until everyone else finished locating and adjusting and then we made the proper changes. the work flow needs to change. personally i think the architects need an earlier finish date, to give engineers time to adjust to their changes for a better quality finished product. atleast on the scale of the projects we do at my office. i have no complaints about revit mep, despite the lack of updates in new versions for piping. our models run pretty well and at our office were actually ahead of the rest of the industry with using the program. as for plotters, yes oce’s are the shit compared to xerox and others, but they still break down. luckily service reps are pretty close. ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/51 "2010-06-05T06:03:16Z")
agreed ^^^^^ it seems like the architects finish and we get a matter of a couple days to totally finish the MEP work and its just not enough time…arch dont seem to understand that what maybe a small change for them can be a drastic change for the MEP or not so much drastic as it is a time consuming adjustment to the MEP drawings…our Xerox broke way less that our OCE i miss it ---
**Author:** ![slo\_ride](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slo\_ride](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slo_ride)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/52 "2010-06-05T18:07:28Z")
the problem is guys you can never ‘finish early’ it just doesn’t happen… especially not on larger scale complex projects… changes are tough on the architects side too… i hate having to hear all the walls i need to change sizes for in order to put in a but load of electrical panels or when the ceiling makes its slow march downward as space in the plenum gets chewed up by the systems… and don’t get me started on the placement of strobes, switches, thermostats, etc etc… personally that is what i love about having architects and engineers in revit is you get to see where all the stuff is going to be before you show up on site one day and there is a bright red strobe smack in the middle of a feature wall or something… ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/53 "2010-06-05T22:22:06Z")
u also have to remember that we are limited a lot by the building codes…so may strobes at so many feet…electrical panels need so much clearence around them…thermostats need to be put in certain places so the system operates…i am not saying that its all easy on architects but in some cases its more complicated on the MEP side and archs dont realize that ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/54 "2010-06-06T08:16:16Z")
Users saying shit like “I hate this, the screen is too big and I have to look up. It hurts my neck” to their new 24" imac. That one was an old lady that had a G5 tower and 17" old ass LCD, and is as dumb as rocks. Users having admin rights and us (IT) having to deal with the virus the always seem to magically get. Then bitching when we clean the box and strip admin, asking why they can’t install shit anymore. LOL Going into a suite for 1 support call and having EVERYBODY in the suite attack you with their nitpicky issues as if you’re their personal IT slave. Not being able to fire direct reports that show up whenever the fuck they feel like it with shitty excuses every time. Such as “my car is on it’s side over the curb/dropoff and my landlord has a crane coming to pick the car back up” or “I won’t be in, my door is frozen shut”. Oh…I love how we deploy projector setups instead of hanging the fuckers on the ceiling so they can’t be stolen, have their leveling feet bent off etc… ---
**Author:** ![JSTANEON](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jstaneon/32/7267_2.png) [@JSTANEON](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSTANEON)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2010, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-people-complain-about-in-your-office/155932/55 "2010-06-06T10:41:29Z")
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