# What do you need to look for when guying a dsm? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 8, 2006, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-need-to-look-for-when-guying-a-dsm/185466 "2006-10-08T05:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 52
**Author:** ![burnyd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnyd/32/6020_2.png) [@burnyd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnyd)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-need-to-look-for-when-guying-a-dsm/185466/52 "2006-10-13T14:54:46Z")
> [@hayabusa had sex with a chopper!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hayabusa-had-sex-with-a-chopper/25048/22): > > The mitsu 14b lasts a long time, many a 4g63 has passed the 200k mark, and DSMs are good looking cars too. Again, I’m not bashing the Toyota, but I don’t think it is greatly superior to a DSM, perhaps not at all. > > The reliability is more about abuse/maintenance than the cars themselves. > > I think you’ll be fine, so long as you do proper maintenance, and you resist the urge to crank up the boost long enough to have proper supporting mods. Get a boost gauge and a datalogger before doing any mods. Learn to use the datalogger, and you shouldn’t ever grenade a motor. oh yah power wise I if I wasnt pro 3sgte I out of all the 2.0l turbo motors it seems like 4g has everythign beat hands down… .but as for reliability out of all the awd turbo cars alltrac in my eyes is the absolute best. I meen lets face it Subu blows transmissions DSM’s Break EVO’s are overpriced and too nice to be driven in the winter time. Alltracs are slow but a good daily driven vehicle. Theres not really a ton of problems with a bone stock 3sgte engine I meen honestly after so much mileage they leak oil from the valve seals but what doesnt. DSM Motors are great… I have never owned a dsm but from there reupation it seems there are being repaired more than being driven. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-need-to-look-for-when-guying-a-dsm/185466)._