# What do YOU, think happened at the Pentagon??

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**Created:** [May 17, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149 "2006-05-17T06:30:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/41 "2006-05-17T07:33:01Z")

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beck, did u really expect to see a large fuselage just chilling inside the pentagon. This isnt a fucking movie guys, that plane was moving very fast and was busted into a million pieces once it hit. the link to the opposing POV is much more convincing then that retarded .gif created.

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**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/42 "2006-05-17T07:33:11Z")

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![http://www.totalmedia.com/images/godzilla-1954-photo2.jpg](http://www.totalmedia.com/images/godzilla-1954-photo2.jpg)

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/43 "2006-05-17T07:33:54Z")

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Alright if we are going to start stereotyping people lets keep it on topic.

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**Author:** ![Daddie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daddie/32/7621_2.png) [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/44 "2006-05-17T07:37:42Z")

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> [@JaysGreenLX](#):
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> No the protestants control the world. Jews control Hollywood.

Hollywood controls world

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/45 "2006-05-17T07:37:52Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> beck, did u really expect to see a large fuselage just chilling inside the pentagon. This isnt a fucking movie guys, that plane was moving very fast and was busted into a million pieces once it hit. the link to the opposing POV is much more convincing then that retarded .gif created.

Word. They estimate the plane was traveling 5xx mph when it hit. Tough to capture on film at any frame rate, especially given the narrow angle of the camera.  
At that speed there couldn’t be much left the plane.

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/46 "2006-05-17T07:38:30Z")

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> [@Daddie](#):
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> Hollywood controls world

Eww Tom Cruise is our leader then?

I’d rather have Bush.

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**Author:** ![badazzss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@badazzss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/badazzss)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/47 "2006-05-17T07:38:36Z")

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great info, a plane definitely hit the building… remember it was going 300-400 MPH, im sure most everything would disintegrate into nothing immediately.

edit: just what greenlx said above.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/48 "2006-05-17T07:41:56Z")

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500mph = 733 feet per second

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**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/49 "2006-05-17T07:44:20Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> 500mph = 733 feet per second

How far in front of the Pentagon would you estimate the camera captures?

Surveillance cameras certainly don’t record at 60fps

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/50 "2006-05-17T07:51:37Z")

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> [@JaysGreenLX](#):
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> Eww Tom Cruise is our leader then?
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> I’d rather have Bush.

:lol:

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**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/51 "2006-05-17T08:00:56Z")

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true… I mean, look at car wrecks at even 1/5 the speed can turn them into a few fragments and debris

amplify that 5 times with a whole bunch of jet fuel (same stuff that melted the supports in the twin towers) and bam

actually… anyone remember the video of the pane being launched into the concrete pad? perfect example of what a plane does on impact

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**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/52 "2006-05-17T08:01:21Z")

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[http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml](http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml)

Official vids.

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/53 "2006-05-17T08:07:27Z")

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Independent for President. I bet they do a much better job at everything than the historical and current administrations.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/54 "2006-05-17T08:08:41Z")

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> [@JaysGreenLX](#):
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> How far in front of the Pentagon would you estimate the camera captures?
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> Surveillance cameras certainly don’t record at 60fps

a decent digital setup will be 15 to 30 fps

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**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/55 "2006-05-17T08:14:16Z")

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Impact Video released yesterday…

[http://media.fairfax.com.au/?rid=19127](http://media.fairfax.com.au/?rid=19127)

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**Author:** ![evilsrt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evilsrt/32/7470_2.png) [@evilsrt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/evilsrt)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/56 "2006-05-17T08:15:21Z")

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The 757 has a max speed of 350 knots at sea level. That equals to 402mph. It is possible to go faster than that, the 757 is an overpowered aircraft. But when you start exceeding speed limitations on airplanes things can go wrong in a hurry. Trying to maneuver an aircraft at its max operating speed or even above that is likely to cause structural damage. I don’t think they were going 500mph, but still 325-375mph is still one hell of a crash. I’ve talked to American Airlines pilots who knew the pilots on the American 77 flight, so obviously I believe it was an aircraft and not a conspiracy.

As for the small amount of debris found, I took a couple aircraft accident investigation courses in college (Aeronautical Science major) and one thing you learn is when you have a high speed crash that doesn’t hit the ground and keep moving, such as the pentagon crash, debris is very difficult to find. Especially when there was a lot of fuel/fire.

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**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/57 "2006-05-17T08:16:43Z")

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That camera, even looking at the ‘raw’ footage, captures 1 frame/second, typical for a security camera that is more so for seeing who is at the gate. You’re going to get nothing of actual use out of that footage, whether the :20 frame is there or not (and that might be nothing but a white frame from the flash of the explosion).

And you must remember that the Pentagon was in the midst of an upgrade to the entire structure to strengthen it against attacks (how ironic) and other disasters. The section that was hit was already completed and considerably stronger (thicker walls, more reinforcement, heavier windows, etc). Now, a plane made of light wieght materials travelling over 350+mph hitting a heavily reinforced wall… not much is going to survive. I have seen pictures of one of the turbines sitting in the building (I think it made it to at least the third or fourth ring).

Conspiracy theorists are no more than people with too much time on their hands. Find something better to do with your time.

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**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/58 "2006-05-17T08:24:40Z")

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> [@Itagaki](#):
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> Conspiracy theorists are no more than people with too much time on their hands. Find something better to do with your time.

:word:

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**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/59 "2006-05-17T08:35:54Z")

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A FUCKING PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON…

![http://truerace.com/pent.gif](http://truerace.com/pent.gif)

CLEAR AS FUCKING DAY not real video

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-happened-at-the-pentagon/12149/60 "2006-05-17T08:38:43Z")

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Where’s wetwork, lets get his input! :lol:

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