# What do you think is wrong with my car? **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [May 16, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790 "2012-05-16T12:20:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wheels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wheels/32/6655_2.png) [@wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wheels)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/1 "2012-05-16T12:20:03Z")
I have this posted on a couple G8 boards, but I figured I would see what you guys though too. I have a popping, clucking whatever you want to call it coming from drivers side suspension. I have checked everything I can think of. Caliper isn’t loose, the cradle seems to be tight, I took the control arm out of the spindle and the joints seemed tight. Only happens when I am on the brakes. Does not happen over bumps without brakes being applied. If I start in reverse and hit the brakes it pops, then if I go forward and brake it pops back. I can go back and forth like this. I can “powerbrake” it in forward and reverse and it happens. It is a loud popping sound and I can feel it in the floorboard/pedal. I have an appointment Friday at the dealership but I am out of warranty and want to fix it myself. The only problem is I am out of bumper to bumper warranty, and I dont want the dealer to just order parts and be stuck for parts that dont fix the problem. I went to my mechanic today and showed him the sound. We put it on the lift and he couldn’t find anything that stuck out to him that was wrong. We torqued all the cradle bolts and any other bolts to make sure everything was tight. I am going to pull off the plastic shroud under the front bumper that covers a few more things and see if I can find anything. Maybe look for a crack in the subframe? You can see/hear it the best at the end of the videos Videos: [youtu.be/GrfA0YdmJrE](https://youtu.be/GrfA0YdmJrE) [youtu.be/ExtGnuAn7Zs](https://youtu.be/ExtGnuAn7Zs) ---
**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/2 "2012-05-16T12:47:55Z")
Rolling backword and forward countless times FTW!! Seriously tho no clue whats wrong ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/3 "2012-05-16T12:56:10Z")
Ummm. your wheel just shifted forward and backwards about 2 inches under load there. I dont think thats normal, unless you have some soft bushings. Thats alot of movement I think ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/4 "2012-05-16T12:59:03Z")
and thats very metallic sounding, metal on metal. So it may help narrow it down. I dont know how the front suspension is designed on those. so I would have to see it to get a better idea. But that movement forward and backwards in the wheelbase on and off load looks like alot. take a video of the other side and compare the amount of movement on the wheel/spindle. To me it looks like a lower control arm mount or something is either broken, very loose, or something like that. something down there is allowing the bottom of the spindle to move an awful lot (caster angle). ---
**Author:** ![wheels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wheels/32/6655_2.png) [@wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wheels)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/5 "2012-05-16T13:15:03Z")
This is the front suspension setup. [youtu.be/2VHwxFHPWhM](https://youtu.be/2VHwxFHPWhM) I agree it is moving a lot, and I am going to check the other side and see if it is the same on the pass. side. Doesnt mean the pass side bushings arent shot as well. No mounts are broken or have anything visually wrong with them. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/6 "2012-05-16T13:18:07Z")
Lower cntrl ARM bushings , replaced a few sets for this . Get the poly bushing kit and the car will ride better and handle better ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/7 "2012-05-16T13:21:19Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*Official: Southgate Meet Thread\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-southgate-meet-thread/29171/2510): > > Lower cntrl ARM bushings , replaced a few sets for this . Get the poly bushing kit and the car will ride better and handle better ^This. Think there is a TSB for control arm issues with those vehicles. Check out this thread: [http://forum.grrrr8.net/archive/index.php/t-25027.html](http://forum.grrrr8.net/archive/index.php/t-25027.html) ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/8 "2012-05-16T13:22:39Z")
Not a t.s.b really just a unnoted issue lol ---
**Author:** ![wheels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wheels/32/6655_2.png) [@wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wheels)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/9 "2012-05-16T13:28:49Z")
The LCA’s were replaced one under warranty (TSB not a recall) in 2009 by the original owner, but there have been revisions to the replacement arms since them (most recently in late 2011) because the replacements suck ass too. This does not sound like all the other LCA issues I have read about. They all make noise when driving over bumps, my noise only happens when on the brakes hard. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/10 "2012-05-16T13:30:53Z")
It’s the bushing dude , when ya on brake either way its chucking around in bushing . Depends on what ARM it is and how its gonna present itself ---
**Author:** ![wheels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wheels/32/6655_2.png) [@wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wheels)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/11 "2012-05-16T13:34:09Z")
> [@Adult Vehicle?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/adult-vehicle/49588/73): > > It’s the bushing dude , when ya on brake either way its chucking around in bushing . Depends on what ARM it is and how its gonna present itself I hope so, they are easy to replace and not too expensive either. Your buddy Justin still work at Otto? ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/12 "2012-05-16T13:35:25Z")
Nah man , another friend is the service manager at whalen in Greenwich n.y though ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/13 "2012-05-16T14:18:16Z")
Def bought a lemon. Get rid of it and buy another typhoon. ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/14 "2012-05-16T14:23:32Z")
> [@Adult Vehicle?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/adult-vehicle/49588/74): > > Nah man , another friend is the service manager at whalen in Greenwich n.y though That spokes-girl for Whalen is kinda weird looking but would still smash. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/15 "2012-05-16T14:34:09Z")
I’ll give ya slowmarro for it !!! As well as make Sbardy give ya a handy a day . ---
**Author:** ![Jeremiah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeremiah/32/6318_2.png) [@Jeremiah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeremiah)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/16 "2012-05-16T18:08:41Z")
Check your pads. I had a broken inside pad on the first car I ever had and made that exact same mystery noise. ---
**Author:** ![toomanycamaros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/17 "2012-05-16T18:46:39Z")
^ I would pull the calipers and check the pads just to be sure. Doesn’t take that long and you might as well check to make sure. Like previously posted there are known issues with the LCAs. I would check to see if there are any new PIs, but GMs dumpy service info system is down. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/18 "2012-05-16T18:46:39Z")
But the wheel won’t move in the wheelwell if it WAS a pad ---
**Author:** ![wheels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wheels/32/6655_2.png) [@wheels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wheels)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/19 "2012-05-16T18:48:35Z")
I had the caliper off the other day to check everything. Pads were fine and caliper bracket and caliper were tight. Everything checked out brake-wise ---
**Author:** ![vonzs6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vonzs6/32/6515_2.png) [@vonzs6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vonzs6)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790/20 "2012-05-16T18:58:06Z")
had a similar problem and sound. turned out to be a faulty/dirty abs ring and or sensor that was causing it to semi lock the wheel at low speed with the same clicking and grinding. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-is-wrong-with-my-car/263790.md?page=2)