# What Do you think of this cage? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 13, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307 "2005-09-13T07:38:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/1 "2005-09-13T07:38:59Z")
Gforce takes their time making cages, and i dunno if they still are or not… but i wanted a cage for my car… im gonna be doing alot of track days next year and well i wanna feel safer soooo i had a guy in korea track one down for me ![http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100390.jpg](http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100390.jpg) ![http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100391.jpg](http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100391.jpg) ![http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100392.jpg](http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100392.jpg) ![http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100393.jpg](http://www.viper966.com/newpics/p9100393.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/2 "2005-09-13T07:39:50Z")
BTW its 350 bux ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/3 "2005-09-13T07:43:54Z")
eh… I don’t like to see bolts in a cage. I realize it makes it easier to install, and it looks fancy, but you can weld… borrow a bender and make one. Copy this design of course 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/4 "2005-09-13T07:44:40Z")
not to be a dick dude, you have with under 300whp. why do you need a cage? ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/5 "2005-09-13T07:49:16Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > not to be a dick > dude, you have with under 300whp. why do you need a cage? i wont for much longer, i just havnt gotten the time/$$ to go back to the dyno to see what the car can put down… last tiem we tuned it i didnt have an egt guage so we just ended @ 17psi on a crush bent 2.25" exhaust… now i have a full 3" exhaust and an egt guage soooo time to go from there ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/6 "2005-09-13T07:51:59Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > not to be a dick > dude, you have with under 300whp. why do you need a cage? You can crash in a 50hp car. HP doesn’t have anything to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/7 "2005-09-13T07:52:56Z")
even still with what the car weighs, you will need to be making a lot more than 300 to need/have to have a cage it seems like a waste of time and money until you have actually made the car fast. you were at 17psi on pump, how much more do you think you can push it before the engine eats itself? > [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > You can crash in a 50hp car. HP doesn’t have anything to do with it. but it wont hurt. you have to be going fast. maybe i should put a cage in my winter beater, or on my lawn mower. never can tell when a crazed squirl could run out in front of me, and i end up rolling the john deere. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/8 "2005-09-13T07:55:37Z")
I agree, if You need a cage then You surely don’t need one that’s bolted. Even shitty welds \> grade 8 bolts. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/9 "2005-09-13T07:58:50Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > even still with what the car weighs, you will need to be making a lot more than 300 to need/have to have a cage > > it seems like a waste of time and money until you have actually made the car fast. > you were at 17psi on pump, how much more do you think you can push it before the engine eats itself? > > . wel 17psi on this turbo is @ peak efficency… and going up to 23-26 still puts me above 80%… the motor is fully built… but i dont know how everything is going to act together… i was hoping to get ~mid to high 3’s on pump and somehwere in the 4’s on race gas but thats for mike @ innovative to decide ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/10 "2005-09-13T08:01:16Z")
that may be where it is efficient BUT… you wont make more than a handful of passes on pump at 26psi before something breaks i can hear it now spool spool spool ping ping ping rattle rattle… clunk > [@Nikuk](#): > > I agree, if You need a cage then You surely don’t need one that’s bolted. Even shitty welds \> grade 8 bolts. agreed ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/11 "2005-09-13T08:02:18Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > but it wont hurt. you have to be going fast. > > maybe i should put a cage in my winter beater, or on my lawn mower. never can tell when a crazed squirl could run out in front of me, and i end up rolling the john deere. Bad example. Try telling that to my friend whose sister was killed when her lawn tractor rolled on top of her. 12hp, probably going 5mph. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/12 "2005-09-13T08:06:31Z")
i really hope you’re joking or i will maybe feel bad that i am giggling good thing theres no god… if there was, i would totally be going to hell ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/13 "2005-09-13T08:07:48Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > i really hope you’re joking or i will maybe feel bad that i am giggling > > good thing theres no god… if there was, i would totally be going to hell No, I’m not joking. You live in fucking Akron, I’m shocked you haven’t heard of people getting killed by rolling a tractor before. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/14 "2005-09-13T08:08:37Z")
I rolled a lawn mower on top of me before… it sucked, but I lived. BTW - Zero - Thats a weak point. If I felt unsafe in my car I’d get a cage. I do enough stupid shit in my car to need one. From what your saying… just cause he has 300 to the wheels he won’t go fast enough to need a cage… well when he was stock the car could do 105… with 400\_ whp the car will just get there quicker… speed kills, not power. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/15 "2005-09-13T08:14:21Z")
> [@Zer0DazE](#): > > that may be where it is efficient BUT… you wont make more than a handful of passes on pump at 26psi before something breaks > > i can hear it now > > spool spool spool ping ping ping rattle rattle… clunk > > agreed everything on the car is built to take 600 WHP… i dont know what you think would break but whatever if i get some detonation obviously i will have to scale it back… ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/16 "2005-09-13T08:15:55Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > … speed kills, not power. Word, people die in car crashes all the time and there not driving 500hp sports cars. Since he plans on putting a cage in to make his car safer, more power to him. More of us should do that. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/17 "2005-09-13T08:22:58Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Word, people die in car crashes all the time and there not driving 500hp sports cars. > > Since he plans on putting a cage in to make his car safer, more power to him. > > More of us should do that. :wstupid: But not a _that_ cage. ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/18 "2005-09-13T08:24:41Z")
the whole poitn of this thread was to find out if bolt in cages are safe… thats all i know weld in would be better, ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/19 "2005-09-13T08:25:54Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > :wstupid: > > But not a _that_ cage. what the hell is your problem? I’m not a fan of the cage he is looking at but I don’t think its stupid to look into a cage if your going to put on some serious performance mods. ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307/20 "2005-09-13T08:28:04Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > the whole poitn of this thread was to find out if bolt in cages are safe… thats all i know weld in would be better, Oh yeah sorry. We got a little off track. I think a bold in would help but I would feel safer with a welded cage. Plus a welded cage will add some chassis rigidity. Bolted cages may enlongate the bolt holes if and when the chassis flexes. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-think-of-this-cage/2307.md?page=2)