# What do you want the Democrats to accomplish? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 9, 2006, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948 "2006-11-09T07:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/61 "2006-11-10T08:59:57Z")
> [@forthekicks385](#): > > they did brake 13 years of united nation santions did they not? No the people fighting the US military in Iraq did not break 13 years of UN sanctions. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/62 "2006-11-10T09:01:04Z")
> [@SI01](#): > > Just so you know, not as much as they should. Yeah, they only pay about 95% of all taxes.:roll2: You are a lazy socialist who wants my money, I don’t like you.😃 Get a job dirtbag! FLAT TAX = The ONLY fair way to tax people. ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/63 "2006-11-10T09:04:55Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Just so you know, the tax changes made in recent years have the highest income people paying MORE in taxes. Not as a %, maybe as an overall figure. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/64 "2006-11-10T09:33:32Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > So yeah, if anything you’ll be paying more in taxes by next year, not less. 😢 time to move ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/65 "2006-11-10T10:42:36Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > :tup: great post. glad someone read it 🙂 > [@AWDrifter](#): > > FLAT TAX = The ONLY fair way to tax people. :word: ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/66 "2006-11-10T11:10:33Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Yeah, they only pay about 95% of all taxes.:roll2: > > You are a lazy socialist who wants my money, I don’t like you.😃 > Get a job dirtbag! > > FLAT TAX = The ONLY fair way to tax people. 95% percent is a little high. Its more like 80% As with most things in life the 80%-20% rule applies. I do agree with the flat tax though. So does this guy ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/67 "2006-11-10T11:45:03Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > To save American lives and American dollars. Granted, now that we’re in we can’t just pull out, but maybe a doable plan to have the last American troops out of there within 20 years? if it took an Iron fist to rule… wouldn’t you try and adopt sucessfull practices. there will be no PC fix. we will be hated anyway. it will be impossible to change their human behavior on such a huge scale. they have had those believes since birth. its just pissing money away. at least the last time was a real war… one that others helped pay for. I have no grand expectations from the politicians, except that they will always be worried about self preservation. Oh, maybe we could make a GED required for well fair, and keep the 15 y/o moms out of emergency rooms because two of their children have a runny nose. ( it was good to know she is planning on taking a year off after HS then going to ECC for free because they have daycare… and that her prom date has a kid with another \*\*\*\*\*) but, i’m not bitter 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/68 "2006-11-10T13:07:06Z")
> [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > 95% percent is a little high. Its more like 80% > > As with most things in life the 80%-20% rule applies. > > I do agree with the flat tax though. > So does this guy I embellished a bit… I found some old numbers from 2002.(the rich actually pay more currently) Only 11,000,000 people pay 37.5% of the total tax income. That is more than 1/3 of all tax revenue is covered by only 11,000,000 people!!! 56% is paid by the top 5%. 67% is paid by the top 10%. 84% is paid by the top 25%. 96% is paid by the top 50%. 3.9% is paid by the bottom 50%!!! I REPEAT 3.9% is paid by the bottom 50%!!! HALF of the country combined only pays 3.9%!!! Think about that! So should the top 10% pay more than 2/3 of the total tax revenue? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/69 "2006-11-10T13:21:34Z")
yes, because they make more than 2/3 of the money ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/70 "2006-11-10T13:24:17Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > yes, because they make more than 2/3 of the money Do they get 2/3 more services from the government? No, the bottom 50% get all the handouts.(you know, the ones that pay 3.9% into the funds) That makes total sense.:bloated: I should get a government funded limo ride to work everyday for what I pay!:biglaugh: ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/71 "2006-11-10T13:26:21Z")
EDIT ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/72 "2006-11-10T13:27:51Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Do they get 2/3 more services from the government? > No, the bottom 50% get all the handouts.(you know, the ones that pay 3.9% into the funds) > That makes total sense.:bloated: Yeah I get all kinds of government handouts.:cjerk: What the fuck are you talking about??? Do you want foodstamps or something??? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/73 "2006-11-10T13:29:01Z")
> [@JaysGreenLX](#): > > Yeah I get all kinds of government handouts.:cjerk: What the fuck are you talking about??? > > Do you want foodstamps or something??? I would love food stamps. Why shouldn’t I get what I pay for?:gotme: ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/74 "2006-11-10T13:55:32Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > So yeah, if anything you’ll be paying more in taxes by next year, not less. No you won’t ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/75 "2006-11-10T13:56:26Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > I would love food stamps. > Why shouldn’t I get what I pay for?:gotme: because you don’t NEED them Hey I’m all for a realistic flat tax of 25% on EVERY DOLLAR YOU MAKE (first 22K excluded, 44K combined) That means inheritance, investments, bonus’, anything. If you make $100 million, you pay $25 million in taxes. Getting 10 million when gramps dies? Thanks for the 2.5 million in taxes! The middle class would fucking thrive. Especially those making 35-60 year. Then we can have nationalized health care, a real public school system. and before anyone asks where the 22K came from, it’s roughly double the 2005 poverty threshold. ps - this would be a tax cut for well over 80% of people. In fact that might be too low of a flat rate, maybe 30% would be better > [@AWDrifter](#): > > Do they get 2/3 more services from the government? > No, the bottom 50% get all the handouts.(you know, the ones that pay 3.9% into the funds) Do you think the top 5% would be able to make as much money w/o the bottom 50%? The top 5% doesn’t shop and Wall-Mart…they own it, but the bottom 50% keep them in business. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/76 "2006-11-10T15:54:30Z")
❤ Joe > [@JoesTypeS](#): > > The middle class would fucking thrive. Especially those making 35-60 year… but the bottom 50% keep them in business. key statements, circle of life. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/77 "2006-11-10T17:21:03Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > Non partisan – I want Utopia. But we can dream, right? > > Dear Santa, > > - If a US Citizen is able bodied and of clinically sound mind – put them to work. > > - Teach the children. Teach them that Doritos+Pepsi+Barney != childhood. Free up the Billions spent the obese, nicotine addicted, anti-social, offspring. Instead spend the man-hours & tax funds on teaching America’s one-night accidents how to contribute to the GDP. Please also teach them that broccoli \> Lipitor. > > - Socialized health-care? Sure, that’d be fun… but it shouldn’t be necessary. Teach people the difference between a Snickers and a turkey sandwich. Show them what inhalation of burning chemicals does to tissues. > > - Teach adolescents (ages 8-18) that earning 1% on $500 checking account while paying 12% on a $20k boosted IS300 is not the definition of disposable income. This will go along way for the tax base & financial markets. > > - Show me legislation or other government plan (local, state, and/or federal) to negate the trends of higher education costs. I don’t want to spend $60k/yr for tuition… albeit 19 years from now. > > - If you’re an illegal alien, go home. Come back when you are willing to stand in line and pay taxes. > > - Rewrite the tax codes, both private & corporate. It shouldn’t look like a bell-curve. > > - Elected officials spend more time with constituents, less time with lobbyists & special interest groups. Not every Organization needs a personal congressman, nor a state funded kitty. > > - Cap bullshit lawsuits that do nothing more then bogg down the judicial systems and make bottom feeders into the current day nuveau riche. > > - If I believe in Gamblor, then so be it. Government has no place interfering in law-abiding religions (ask the pilgrims), and it damned sure has no place pushing it’s God-damned religion on me. Leave that to the cracked out man loving televangelists. > > - If a same sex couple wants to get married, good for them. They can have a religious ceremony with unicorns for all I care, it’s their religious right (if the religion allows). The government’s place is to decide how to collect taxes from them, that’s it. > > - Spend $5000 to arm 5 soldiers with a competent weapon and a reliable radio. Stop spending $5000 to arm 1 soldier with over engineered 007 tech, while arming the other 4 soldiers with a side arm and a $5 walkie-takie. > > - There is no cold war. There may be one on the horizon, but not with a USSR level combatent. Start preparing for guerilla warfare, they aren’t just small brush fires in far away lands anymore… You front Yard is ablaze. > > - Iraq – We are there, that’s not going to change. If we leave before the Iraqi’s are “ready”, then we’ll be back to square one when (not if) the civil war takes hold. Deal with it. The sect-warring has gone on for GENERATIONS, we are not going to be able to quell that with a flick of the wrist. Bolster the Iraqi government and show them (gov’t) how to provide for it’s people. > One thing about this mid-term test makes me very happy… the public actually cared enough to turnout and vote. A statement was made, and wether or not I’m happy about the outcome, its good to see the people show some interest. > This momentum makes '08 even more crucial. :tup: Hell fuckin yeah! ---
**Author:** ![Lopros86](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lopros86/32/7301_2.png) [@Lopros86](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Lopros86)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/78 "2006-11-10T17:35:31Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > :tup: Hell fuckin yeah! So now you agree with the guys rooting for the Democrats? Boy are you simpleminded. :bloated: ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/79 "2006-11-10T18:41:24Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > Yeah, they only pay about 95% of all taxes.:roll2: > > You are a lazy socialist who wants my money, I don’t like you.😃 > Get a job dirtbag! > > FLAT TAX = The ONLY fair way to tax people. It certainly isn’t 95%. And I don’t want your money. Rich people can afford the higher taxes. We all know you could. You’re in the Town of EA. I’m just one of those poor Village of EA dwellers. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948/80 "2006-11-10T19:22:02Z")
> [@Lopros86](#): > > So now you agree with the guys rooting for the Democrats? > Boy are you simpleminded. > > :bloated: I’m not a democrat… 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-do-you-want-the-democrats-to-accomplish/19948.md?page=5)