# What dodge is doing about the ZR1!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 8, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366 "2008-02-08T16:01:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/1 "2008-02-08T16:01:35Z")
I know a few of you guys have been wondering. Corvette vs. Viper The rivalry has been going on for years now. GM has been really stepping it up with the corvette. How does Dodge plan to redo the Viper, to answer to the ZR1? find out here > **[The Dodge Viper Is Dead: In Lieu Of Flowers, Please Send R&D Funds](https://jalopnik.com/354292/the-dodge-viper-is-dead-in-lieu-of-flowers-please-send-rd-funds)** > > Who would win in a fight between a 3-headed hell hound and a snake? In a case important to a great number of high-horsepower-lovin' enthusiasts, it appears it's going to be Satan's canine. > > > > > > In all the hoopla over the past few weeks... cliff notes : they gave up ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/2 "2008-02-08T16:10:31Z")
> [@Today I went swimming with my wife.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/today-i-went-swimming-with-my-wife/34717/19): > > cliff notes : they gave up nicee ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/3 "2008-02-08T16:15:31Z")
It will die like the F-body What’s even funnier, no one gives a shit about vipers anyway and have it come back 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Cheeks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cheeks/32/5930_2.png) [@Cheeks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cheeks)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/4 "2008-02-08T16:16:59Z")
> [@Roller hockey people inside: skate recommendations](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/roller-hockey-people-inside-skate-recommendations/34793/17): > > nicee wrong, you should be unhappy about this. Competition brings out the best in everyone, at least for a few years the viper was the vette’s competition, now with nothing to compare it to, you will see no further improvements until someone comes up with something to compete with it again ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/5 "2008-02-08T16:20:14Z")
The horsepower wars are coming to an end anyway from the factory. You want horspower visit the local speed shop. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/6 "2008-02-08T20:35:15Z")
> [@TW: '03 350Z Touring.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-03-350z-touring/34816/2): > > The horsepower wars are coming to an end anyway from the factory. > > You want horspower visit the local speed shop. x2 viper\>vette At least the viper looks like a sports car. Vette’s are boring to look at. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/7 "2008-02-08T20:53:11Z")
^ your an idiot like beat90 don’t quote me. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/8 "2008-02-08T22:34:43Z")
> [@Shaggy"](#): > > ^ your an idiot like beat90 don’t quote me. faggot says what? ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/9 "2008-02-08T22:44:27Z")
> [@Nice S2k slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nice-s2k/34685/23): > > wrong, you should be unhappy about this. Competition brings out the best in everyone, at least for a few years the viper was the vette’s competition, now with nothing to compare it to, you will see no further improvements until someone comes up with something to compete with it again i’m gonna have to go with the vette is now competing with the world. they made a big deal about how the Z06 and now ZR1 can hang with or beat the top exotics for tens of thousands of dollars less. I think GM will continue to push the ZR1 vette into supercar status ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/10 "2008-02-09T06:32:42Z")
> [@Nice S2k slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nice-s2k/34685/23): > > wrong, you should be unhappy about this. Competition brings out the best in everyone, at least for a few years the viper was the vette’s competition, now with nothing to compare it to, you will see no further improvements until someone comes up with something to compete with it again Gonna have to disagree with you on this one chico…as far as american cars go the vette has been running circles around the rest for some time now…it’s on to crushing exotics and imports…dodge is small time now > [@\*\*\*\*Official: Southgate Meet Thread\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-southgate-meet-thread/29171/1372): > > x2 > > viper\>vette > > At least the viper looks like a sports car. Vette’s are boring to look at. ??? Your going solely on looks? Vipers don’t look any better… > [@Atreyu - Lead Sails Paper Anchor](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/atreyu-lead-sails-paper-anchor/34805/6): > > i’m gonna have to go with the vette is now competing with the world. they made a big deal about how the Z06 and now ZR1 can hang with or beat the top exotics for tens of thousands of dollars less. I think GM will continue to push the ZR1 vette into supercar status hundreds of thousands less :hs: ---
**Author:** ![SoLow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solow/32/6001_2.png) [@SoLow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoLow)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/11 "2008-02-09T06:37:30Z")
> [@\*\*\*\*Official: Southgate Meet Thread\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-southgate-meet-thread/29171/1372): > > At least the viper looks like a sports car. Vette’s are boring to look at. the vette looks a billion times better ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/12 "2008-02-09T09:11:35Z")
no. the viper is a more exotic sporty looking car ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/13 "2008-02-09T09:47:23Z")
i love the 95-99 ish vipers. they are one of the hottest looking cars i think. too bad they sound like a dumptruck and crotch rocket mixed together. wonder if you can get a cam with some of the lobes changed up like a 4/7 swap for chevys and rewire the ignition? that may help change some of that sound of that firing order ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/14 "2008-02-09T09:51:52Z")
No matter how awesome the ZR1 and/or Z06 become, they’ll always be living with millions of their slower, yet almost identical little brothers running around. A real exotic doesn’t have castrated twins running around (WRX/STI). GM is out to make a profit, and history shows that they still suck. At least the Rally car makers can turn a profit with their econo/performance combos. The ZR1s will still be badass, and outperform many “true supercars.” However they’ll never have the prestige or resale value of a real supercar either. Also, Shaggy is a moron. Hyundai just came out with a 375 hp V8 and the HP wars are over? HAHAHA. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/15 "2008-02-09T10:08:10Z")
Between the HIGH end cars it will be over in a few years. 375hp isn’t shit nowadays fruitcake. ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/16 "2008-02-09T12:36:31Z")
> [@Random pull over?!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/random-pull-over/34824/2): > > Also, Shaggy is a moron. Hyundai just came out with a 375 hp V8 and the HP wars are over? HAHAHA. Who cares…hoon-die made it… ---
**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/17 "2008-02-09T13:59:37Z")
> [@Official Man-Jam Thread...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-man-jam-thread/34783/49): > > 375hp isn’t shit nowadays fruitcake. Yeah, Hyundai, who didn’t even make a V8 before, is now producing one that makes more power than the LS1 did from 97-200?. I wonder why 375 was insane a few years ago, and now it’s business as usual? Maybe it’s because every manufacturer is producing higher output engines than ever before! :nuts: ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/18 "2008-02-09T18:10:04Z")
> [@Rainbow 6 Vegas](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rainbow-6-vegas/21420/115): > > Yeah, Hyundai, who didn’t even make a V8 before, is now producing one that makes more power than the LS1 did from 97-200?. > > I wonder why 375 was insane a few years ago, and now it’s business as usual? > > Maybe it’s because every manufacturer is producing higher output engines than ever before! > > :nuts: I’m talking high end cars for the 2nd damn time. god damn you give me a headache. ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/19 "2008-02-10T09:22:07Z")
> [@Rainbow 6 Vegas](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rainbow-6-vegas/21420/115): > > Yeah, Hyundai, who didn’t even make a V8 before, is now producing one that makes more power than the LS1 did from 97-200?. > > :nuts: pump your brakes hard as you can, just because it makes more hp than a ls1 doesn’t mean shit…this car hasn’t even been released yet so once it has we will see exactly how well the motor stands up to mods…it WON’T have a legacy like the ls1 ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366/20 "2008-02-10T12:06:12Z")
hyundai’s motor is probly mostly copied from the LS1 design just like chryslers hemi either way 375 is nothin to sneeze at…thats pretty stout for todays fuel economy /environmental regulations [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dodge-is-doing-about-the-zr1/195366.md?page=2)