# What Does 1000 lb ft Look Like?.....
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [March 15, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958 "2007-03-15T22:04:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/41 "2007-03-16T08:53:05Z")
WTF
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/42 "2007-03-16T09:01:33Z")
[quote=“newman,post:39,topic:25958"”]
:ham: :bloated: 😛
Then it would not use a cross product, it would be T=d **F**
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:word:
distance is a direction and value, hence a vector
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### Author:  [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/43 "2007-03-16T09:09:19Z")
This isn’t the NERD section.
BTW nice looking setup, I’m sure you’ll put it to use.
X…
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### Author:  [@albaaboog](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/albaaboog)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/44 "2007-03-16T10:07:00Z")
[quote=“JUICEDSS,post:10,topic:25958"”]
I believe it would be foot lb., not lb. foot. This is what a 1000 lb ft Looks Like. lol
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ha ha
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/45 "2007-03-16T10:08:14Z")
[quote=“albaaboog,post:44,topic:25958"”]
Actually according to the [FONT="]Commutative Property of multiplication it does not matter since you are multiplying the two factors therefore Ft_Lb = Lb_Ft[/FONT]
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too bad that torque is a cross product, not multiplication.
fucking noob. lol.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/46 "2007-03-16T10:09:17Z")
lol, gotta love how Commutative Property of Multiplication was a copy/paste from Google in albaaboog’s post.
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/47 "2007-03-16T10:09:38Z")
[quote=“albaaboog,post:44,topic:25958"”]
Actually according to the [FONT="]Commutative Property of multiplication it does not matter since you are multiplying the two factors therefore Ft_Lb = Lb_Ft[/FONT]
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uhm read my post and learn the difference between scaler quantaties, vector quantaties, dot product, cross product, or take a basic dynamics course :bloated:
haha quoted before the edit
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/48 "2007-03-16T10:23:31Z")
[quote=“newman,post:39,topic:25958"”]
:ham: :bloated: 😛
Then it would not use a cross product, it would be T=d **F**
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:word: That’s what I was thinking, that it wouldn’t be a cross product. But yeah, you’re right. Multiplying force x magnitude you’d just get a bigger linear force.
> If we have a force **F** acting through a point P with position vector **r** with respect to O, then **F** and **r** lie in a plane through O. I have also redrawn the force vector **F** shifted so that its tail is at O.
> The **torque** or **moment** of **F** about an axis through O perpendicular to this plane is given by
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> **T** = **r** x **F** = **|r||f|** sin t **n**
> [LEFT]Boy that takes me back a couple of years. Good times…[/LEFT]
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/49 "2007-03-16T10:40:37Z")
This is bugging me because it’s some basic physics that I just don’t remember. So is it just a convention that T = r x F and not F x r? To follow this convention the unit would be ft-lbs?
Don’t make me dig up my physics 1 book when I get home. :eyebrow:
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/50 "2007-03-16T10:59:46Z")
[quote=“BikerFry,post:49,topic:25958"”]
This is bugging me because it’s some basic physics that I just don’t remember. So is it just a convention that T = r x F and not F x r? To follow this convention the unit would be ft-lbs?
Don’t make me dig up my physics 1 book when I get home. :eyebrow:
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yes it is ft-lbs, or (-1)lb-ft
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### Author:  [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/51 "2007-03-16T11:03:04Z")
the proper way is foot-pounds
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/52 "2007-03-16T11:09:38Z")
I like the blue intake :gotme: lol.
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### Author:  [@JUICEDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JUICEDSS)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/53 "2007-03-16T11:12:27Z")
So what we have learned is:
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### Author:  [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/54 "2007-03-16T11:29:23Z")
oh this is great. :lol:
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### Author:  [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/55 "2007-03-16T11:48:11Z")
Blue balls
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/56 "2007-03-16T11:50:17Z")
I like ham.
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### Author:  [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/57 "2007-03-16T11:51:41Z")
What about how many watts would that be?
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### Author:  [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/58 "2007-03-16T11:56:18Z")
[quote=“Anonymity,post:57,topic:25958"”]
What about how many watts would that be?
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WRONG
POWER /= TORQUE.
come on dan, you’re an engineer.
do you mean joules???
watt ~ power = w/t = F_D/t = m_A_D/t ~ kg_m^2/s
ft-lb ~ torque = F X D = m_A_D ~ kg_m^2/s^2
ft-lb ~ work =F_D = m_A_D ~ kg\*m^2/s^2 = joule
however, work is a **dot** product, torque is a **cross** product.
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### Author:  [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/59 "2007-03-16T12:00:11Z")
Soo… umm… So to me (1000Lb Ft TQ) seemed right, but now I have no idea what was right or even if there is a right or wrong wording of this.
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### Author:  [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-does-1000-lb-ft-look-like/25958/60 "2007-03-16T12:09:11Z")
[quote=“01AudiS4,post:59,topic:25958"”]
Soo… umm… So to me (1000Lb Ft TQ) seemed right, but now I have no idea what was right or even if there is a right or wrong wording of this.
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the correct answer is ft-lbf, technically speaking as there is lbm and lbf
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